[Foundation-l] Public release of Wikimedia Report Card

2009-10-09 Thread Erik Moeller
Erik Zachte, Data Analyst for the Wikimedia Foundation, has just released the first official public version of the Wikimedia Foundation's monthly report card on key program metrics. If you haven't seen it, his blog post about it is here: http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/10/the-wikimedia-report-card/

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Gregory Kohs
Samuel says: + In my experience, high-school teachers were 90/10 anti Wikipedia 3 years ago, and are slightly in favor of it today. This sort of thing would be a fascinating survey to run year after year. + I agree. Market research, even longitudinal tracking research, has fas

Re: [Foundation-l] Bookshelf project

2009-10-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
Jim Redmond wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 09:18, Waerth wrote >> I never new the goal of the wikimedia foundation was to evangelize the >> world. As an agnost I take offence to this > In this context, the term "evangelist" is not specifically a religious term; > rather, it refers to a highly ent

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > In my experience, high-school teachers were 90/10 anti Wikipedia 3 > years ago, and are slightly in favor of it today.  This sort of thing > would be a fascinating survey to run year after year. I don't know. My evidence is all anecdotal, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Michael Snow
Samuel Klein wrote: > In my experience, high-school teachers were 90/10 anti Wikipedia 3 > years ago, and are slightly in favor of it today. I would guess that the shift is in part thanks to their students, who in my experience have been 90/10 or better in favor of it. --Michael Snow ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Bookshelf project

2009-10-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
Waerth wrote: > I am worried about this passage in the Bookshelf project > >> The materials created as part of the Bookshelf Project include basic >> "first step" documents, compelling invitations to participate, *but >> most importantly, **in-depth series of resources targeting potential >> edi

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Samuel Klein
The ratio of overhead to other expenses isn't always a great meter stick, as Erik mentions. Nevertheless, one extraordinary aspect of Wikipedia and siblings is how high the efficiency of its core project work is by that measure: 100 billion views / 100 million edits a year, for $3M in hardware and

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-10-09 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Happy-melon wrote: > [snip] >> It's not just that.  On a technological level, considerable sections of the >> FlaggedRevs code are called on *every* page view, whether the page has >> FlaggedRevs behaviour or

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-10-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Happy-melon wrote: [snip] > It's not just that.  On a technological level, considerable sections of the > FlaggedRevs code are called on *every* page view, whether the page has > FlaggedRevs behaviour or not.  Even if it's eventually saying "no, carry on > normally"

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-10-09 Thread Happy-melon
"Jussi-Ville Heiskanen" wrote in message news:4ac226e2.7010...@gmail.com... > Indeed I fully agree that ensuring that using the extension > on massively edited pages is something that works fine, is > entirely prudent; whereas ensuring perfect functionality > for the full force of the extension

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Happy-melon
"Christophe Henner" wrote in message news:84a69b0e0910091333k1bcb1c87o8dc7b5df126df...@mail.gmail.com... > Anyway, soif we want to have the "stars" what's needed is just to put > all the salaries and costs needed to run the servers and improve the > software in programm. So that's the entire '

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistical research on Wikipedia (Godwin inspired)

2009-10-09 Thread Happy-melon
"Gregory Kohs" wrote in message news:14b1e7be0910081856r46863edcqea8c3a44420d2...@mail.gmail.com... > Both of these previous assessments I conducted for free. No more. I > would > actually enjoy (as I've e-mailed you privately) expanding the scope of my > latter study to include perhaps 200 n

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours this Friday, October 9

2009-10-09 Thread Cary Bass
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just a reminder about today's office hours, which is happening in five minutes. Cary Cary Bass wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This Friday's office hours will feature Mike Godwin, the Wikimedia > Foundation's Legal Counsel. If you don't know Mike Godwin, y

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On 10/9/09 11:33 AM, Gregory Kohs wrote: > Brion says: > > ++ > > A few thousand dollars in rent for the Usability Initiative's space... > > ++ > > It may be equally accurate to say that I have earned "a few thousand > dollars" this year, or in my lifetime, or that comprises the bud

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Christophe Henner
2009/10/9 Gregory Kohs : > Nathan asks: > > + > > I'm curious what importance you attach to the Charity Navigator > rating, and how you think it is (or should be) relevant to the > operations of the WMF. Care to explain? > > + > > Thank you for asking, Nathan.  As always, I am eager

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Fri, 10/9/09, Gregory Kohs wrote: > > You may not be aware of the stories behind the Deputy > Sheriffs' Fraternal > Organization or the Wishing Well Foundation, but I would be > sick to my > stomach if I found that I had donated money to such an > organization, only to > discover that

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Gregory Kohs wrote: > > It may be equally accurate to say that I have earned "a few thousand > dollars" this year, or in my lifetime, or that comprises the budget of the > State of Indiana.  I was hoping for an accurate figure, not a carefree > estimate, Brion.

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Gregory Kohs
Nathan asks: + I'm curious what importance you attach to the Charity Navigator rating, and how you think it is (or should be) relevant to the operations of the WMF. Care to explain? + Thank you for asking, Nathan. As always, I am eager to provide a prompt and direct response to

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Gregory Kohs wrote: > > It may be equally accurate to say that I have earned "a few thousand > dollars" this year, or in my lifetime, or that comprises the budget of the > State of Indiana.  I was hoping for an accurate figure, not a carefree > estimate, Brion. > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Gregory Kohs
Brion says: ++ A few thousand dollars in rent for the Usability Initiative's space... ++ It may be equally accurate to say that I have earned "a few thousand dollars" this year, or in my lifetime, or that comprises the budget of the State of Indiana. I was hoping for an accurat

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On 10/8/09 7:27 PM, Gregory Kohs wrote: > Erik, > > How much of WMF's expenses went to Wikia, Inc. this year so far? A few thousand dollars in rent for the Usability Initiative's space, which will end soon thanks to Wikimedia getting larger office space of their own. You might perhaps remember

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistical research on Wikipedia (Godwin inspired)

2009-10-09 Thread Milos Rancic
Let's try to avoid such emails. Whatever the content of Gregory's email is, sarcastic responses make atmosphere of the list more heated. On 2009-10-09, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Gregory Kohs wrote: > >> [...] >> Both of these previous assessments I conducted for free. No more. I >> would >> act

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistical research on Wikipedia (Godwin inspired)

2009-10-09 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Gregory Kohs wrote: > [...] > Both of these previous assessments I conducted for free. No more. I would > actually enjoy (as I've e-mailed you privately) expanding the scope of my > latter study to include perhaps 200 new articles. But, that work on my part > will cost the Foundation a $1,000