[Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Milos Rancic
When you make a dumb survey, answers will be dumb, as well as conclusions. I am really frustrated with that survey... I wanted to help with my responses, but it seems that I am inside of unknown percentage of Wikimedia Commons users and contributors which doesn't fit into the survey. So, let's

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi Milos, Milos Rancic wrote: * And the winner: What is my reason to participate? And there is no *my* reason, even Commons is the free content project? No reason to answer. The survey was designed specifically to avoid general statements. As you very well state yourself, general

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/26 Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org: One thing I realized, though, was that two questions had an ambiguous wording: people wonder why they have to give reasons for not using Commons, or not participating, despite the fact that they said they do. These questions should read «

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/10/26 Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org: One thing I realized, though, was that two questions had an ambiguous wording: people wonder why they have to give reasons for not using Commons, or not participating, despite the fact that they said they do. These

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/26 Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org: Yes, we tested the survey, but with a smaller number of people, because of the time constraints (the multimedia usability project really started only 2 weeks ago, and the fundraising campaign is going to be the major focus of sitenotices

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Naoko Komura
Milos Rancic wrote: When you make a dumb survey, answers will be dumb, as well as conclusions. I am really frustrated with that survey... I wanted to help with my responses, but it seems that I am inside of unknown percentage of Wikimedia Commons users and contributors which doesn't fit into

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Ehm, the statistics that we have are compiled by Erik Zachte.. qualifying our staff and implicitly Erik as lacking the experience is a bit off. It is not only the Commons project but also the Usability Initiative and the Strategy project that will rely largely on these numbers.. Having

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/26 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Ehm, the statistics that we have are compiled by Erik Zachte.. qualifying our staff and implicitly Erik as lacking the experience is a bit off. It is not only the Commons project but also the Usability Initiative and the Strategy

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Assume - ass u me ... When you look at the presentation of the statistics, when you consider the score card that were recently announced. I am happy to agree with you that it does not say on Erik's user page on en.wp that he had any formal statistics training.. Erik for your information is

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/10/26 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Assume - ass u me ... When you look at the presentation of the statistics, when you consider the score card that were recently announced. I am happy to agree with you that it does not say on Erik's user page on en.wp that he had any

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Gregory Kohs
As I believe I have noted several times on this list and elsewhere in the Wikimediasphere, I'm a professional marketing research practitioner, with over 17 years of experience, currently at a Fortune 100 company, who has designed and executed upwards of 1,500 different survey questionnaires. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread teun spaans
I regard Erik highly for his skills in analyzing data which is already present. I am completely confident he can do some thought provoking analysis. Unfortunately, the skills required for putting a good questionare together are different from those on analyzing the data. The remarks I have seen

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread teun spaans
As an example, let's have a look at the first two questions: 1) Do you use Wikimedia Commons at all? Choose one of the following answers * Yes, regularly * Yes, sometimes * No Criticism: not exact. What is regularly? Once a day? Once a week? Once a month? 5% of all wiki edits? 25% of

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

2009-10-26 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: I don't regularly use Commons, but when I went to fill in the answer at Other for why I don't use it the survey crashed. I got an error message after submitting the page with text in the 'other' field too. I thought it

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Have you dealt with this Systemic Secretive Checkuser Abuse yet? If so, how?

2009-10-26 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Forwarded to the list per request. The message pertains to her initial inquiry of November 2008: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-November/047414.html -- Ral315 -- Forwarded message -- From: dee dee strategicdesign2...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at