Re: [Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against copyleft

2010-07-03 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
As Andrew pointed out, this discussion has spiraled entirely outside the scope of this list. Discussions on the effects of copyright law with regard to Wikimedia and its projects are welcome. General discussions on copyright law and piracy that have little to do with Wikimedia should be taken

Re: [Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against copyleft

2010-07-03 Thread Peter Gervai
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 08:17, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com wrote: As Andrew pointed out, this discussion has spiraled entirely outside the scope of this list.  Discussions on the effects of copyright law with regard to Wikimedia and its projects are welcome.  General discussions on

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite

2010-07-03 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: The endowment is not about just about funding, I think it is probably also symbolic of endurance to many people. There is a worry about the content remaining available in the long term. If there is not an endowment to

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite

2010-07-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 July 2010 17:35, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: David Gerard writes: http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/04/10/disaster-recovery-planning/ Can we reasonably say that everything else on the list there is a

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite

2010-07-03 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: For instance, a clear commitment to maintaining the physical operation of the projects for the next 50 years, even if all sources of funding were to dry up. Or a commitment to maintaining this with infrastructure

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite

2010-07-03 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 3 July 2010 18:29, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hm, well, I think this gets back to David Goodman's point, one which I agree with. Yes, the only absolute commitment the WMF has in the grand scheme of things is to provide the physical resource to host the projects.  

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite

2010-07-03 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: When Bomis was hosting it, it was just a handful of servers. Volunteers wouldn't be able to fork the site and keep things going at anywhere near the level they are at now - if the WMF doesn't have the funds, neither

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite

2010-07-03 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 3 July 2010 18:53, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote: If something of similar consequences as the kill switch [1] were triggered against the WMF in USA, would it still be accessible for the rest of the world? The kill switch idea, as I understand it, is about killing the internet entirely, not

Re: [Foundation-l] Self-determination of language versions in questions of skin?

2010-07-03 Thread William Pietri
On 07/03/2010 04:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: Well. not really. He's asking the same question Greg Maxwell and I asked last month about the language list defaulting to open rather than closed: If a wiki voted for it, would that override the usability team's dictates? That was a straight yes or

Re: [Foundation-l] Self-determination of language versions in questions of skin?

2010-07-03 Thread David Gerard
On 4 July 2010 02:03, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 07/03/2010 04:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: Well. not really. He's asking the same question Greg Maxwell and I asked last month about the language list defaulting to open rather than closed: If a wiki voted for it, would that

Re: [Foundation-l] Self-determination of language versions in questions of skin?

2010-07-03 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:11 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 July 2010 02:03, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 07/03/2010 04:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: Well. not really. He's asking the same question Greg Maxwell and I asked last month about the language list

Re: [Foundation-l] Self-determination of language versions in questions of skin?

2010-07-03 Thread William Pietri
On 07/03/2010 06:11 PM, David Gerard wrote: That's phrased in terms of dominance. It's in effect asking who's the bigger monkey. I think that's a conversation worth avoiding where possible. The dominance element was brought in, as you well know, by Trevor Parscal's preremptory