Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial Content Study Update

If nobody is interested in discussing the study, the apparent conclusion is not that the study should move to the next phase, but just the opposite, that it should be abandoned. If nobody cares enough to talk about it, it's not worth doing. (a slightly different application of WP:GNG, the general n

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

I've asked Gordon Mohr @ IA about how to work with archive-it. I will cc: this thread on any response. SJ On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:56 PM, George Herbert wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> Here's the Archive's on-demand service: >> >> http://archive-it.org >> >> T

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Rodan Bury wrote: > Google's cache only last a handful of days. It's very useful if the Website > is down temporarily (for maintenance or overload for example) but totally > useless otherwise. > Even if Google Cache were less ephemeral, it's hard to avoid the soupçon of evil that permeates Goog

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Here's the Archive's on-demand service: > > http://archive-it.org > > That would be the most reliable way to set up the partnership emijrp > proposes.  And it's certainly a good idea.  Figuring out how to make > it work for almost all editors

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Here's the Archive's on-demand service: http://archive-it.org That would be the most reliable way to set up the partnership emijrp proposes. And it's certainly a good idea. Figuring out how to make it work for almost all editors and make it spam-proof may be interesting. SJ On Tue, Aug 24,

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

David Gerard wrote: > On 24 August 2010 14:57, emijrp wrote: > >> I want to make a proposal about external links preservation. Many times, >> when you check an external link or a link reference, the website is dead or >> offline. This websites are important, because they are the sources for the

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:05 PM, wrote: > No university, publisher, or newspaper has used my CC licensed images > either commercially or non-commercially without checking with me first > that the work is actually CC licensed. They have always carried out some > form of due diligence to ascertai

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikime dia Foundation and Internet Archive

Дана Tuesday 24 August 2010 21:05:05 wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk написа: > Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > I wanted to suggest this for a long time. I see two more reasons for > > this: > > > > - We are often copying free images or text from various sites (for > > example flickr but other ones too). It

[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 6 Issue 3 4 – 23 August 2010

News and notes: Pending changes poll, Public policy classes, Payment schemes debate, and more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-08-23/News_and_notes In the news: Zionist editing courses, newspaper denies editing candidate, net neutrality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

* It gives the impression that they are so ineffective at archiving recent content as to be effectively irrelevant.* Your not the only person asking that question, have a look at this FAQ entryand This forum post

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Does anyone know what the status of the Internet Archive is with respect to being a practical ongoing concern? In the last couple years IA has added relatively little web-based content. For example, their Wayback Machine currently offers: www.nytimes.com: 11 pages since 2006 en.wikipedia.org: 5

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial Content Study Update

One serious issue with the current status of the study is that it appears to be fairly death - especially when considering that it debates a controversial issue while potentially not affecting just one, but every single Wikipedia. After an initial and sustained burst which saw at least several edit

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

2010/8/24 > Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > > > I wanted to suggest this for a long time. I see two more reasons for > this: > > > > - We are often copying free images or text from various sites (for > > example flickr but other ones too). It happens that these sites go > > offline or change their li

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > I wanted to suggest this for a long time. I see two more reasons for this: > > - We are often copying free images or text from various sites (for > example flickr but other ones too). It happens that these sites go > offline or change their licenses later. Having suc

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Google's cache only last a handful of days. It's very useful if the Website is down temporarily (for maintenance or overload for example) but totally useless otherwise. Kind Regards, Dodoïste 2010/8/24 theo10011 > Its a great idea, using the wayback machine to ward of link rot. I support > it b

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Its a great idea, using the wayback machine to ward of link rot. I support it but doesn't Google cache offer a similar service. there is also deadURL.com which uses Google Cache, the Internet Archive, and user submissions for gathering dead links. I would guess that Google Cache would have the hig

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

On 24 August 2010 17:32, emijrp wrote: > Internet Archive is a nonprofit foundation, and it is running since 1996, so > I think that it is a stable project and they are going to create mirrors in > more countries (now there is a mirror in Alexandria). But, of course, > Webcite or Wikiwix can help

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

We need a trusted and reliable archiving project (and perhaps mirrors). Webcite or Wikiwix can be great projects, but, how long will they be in the web? Until 2012? 2015? 2020? The average life of a website is 77 days[1], and we see dead links everywhere in Wikipedia articles. This is a big proble

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Hi, On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, teun spaans wrote: > > I took a look at the example in the french wiki, and didnt spot a date > in the archive reference. If the source changes its content, this may > pose a problem. > > If you click on an archive link the top frame will display the exact da

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Dear teun, Linterweb is working around the wikipedia before 2007 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia So i am sure we will be online in the futur :) Looks like: http://wikiwix.com http://okawix.com Not a problem, if the source changes there is no change in our cache, it is what want the fre

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

This looks like a solid organization. Solid in the sense that it wont go suddenly offline. Such links may be valuable for: - article references to sources, in case the source goes offline - article references to sources, in case thesource changes its content - media copies when the source changes

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Dear all, The french ( since two years ) and hungarian wikipedia are using our archive, and it will be implemented in other french project. You could see them on all the french article : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maupassant#Notes_et_r.C3.A9f.C3.A9rences just click on archive. When a link is

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

On 08/24/2010 03:57 PM, emijrp wrote: > I want to make a proposal about external links preservation. Many times, > when you check an external link or a link reference, the website is dead or > offline. This websites are important, because they are the sources for the > facts showed in the articles.

Re: [Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

On 24 August 2010 14:57, emijrp wrote: > I want to make a proposal about external links preservation. Many times, > when you check an external link or a link reference, the website is dead or > offline. This websites are important, because they are the sources for the > facts showed in the articl

[Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Hi all; I want to make a proposal about external links preservation. Many times, when you check an external link or a link reference, the website is dead or offline. This websites are important, because they are the sources for the facts showed in the articles. Internet Archive searches for intere

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

Hoi, In reply to theo10011, I am happy to inform you that there has been an awesome project where 10 universities in Jakarta competed this year. This competition was wildly successful, the number of editors doubled during the run of the competition. If anything, it is sad that the Indonesian chapte

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial Content Study Update

Robert, For what it's worth and for the record, I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts and findings about this process on this list, it's a fantastic positive and constructive example of "transparency" as I understand and value it. Bon courage, Cheers, Delphine On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at

Re: [Foundation-l] Proteopedia

Hoi, Tim Starling looked at it at the time. He found some issues with the security of the JMOL software. As I understand it, his findings were considered by the JMOL people. What I do not know is if they communicated back with Tim. Thanks, GerardM On 24 August 2010 13:58, Peter Coombe wro

Re: [Foundation-l] Proteopedia

On 24 August 2010 12:21, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Amir E. Aharoni, 24/08/2010 12:22: >> This is done using Jmol, an >> LGPL-licensed Java applet, so maybe it can be used in Wikipedia in the >> future. > > There's been some discussion here: > http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Visuali

Re: [Foundation-l] Proteopedia

Amir E. Aharoni, 24/08/2010 12:22: > This is done using Jmol, an > LGPL-licensed Java applet, so maybe it can be used in Wikipedia in the > future. There's been some discussion here: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Visualization_methods (see related pages and talks). Nemo _

[Foundation-l] Proteopedia

Thought that some of you may find this interesting: In the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, there's a MediaWiki-based project called Proteopedia: http://proteopedia.org/ . It is a Wikipedia-inspired database of proteins and other molecules. The project is supervised by professors

Re: [Foundation-l] Sakha Wikipedia passed 7000 articles

Hoi, The language committee has had the sad experience that people suggested that a Wikipedia was in a particular language while it was not. There are still Wikipedias where people native to a language object to it because they do not recognise it as properly written in their language. We have trie

Re: [Foundation-l] Sakha Wikipedia passed 7000 articles

Congratulations. Am 24.08.2010 08:29, wrote Amir E. Aharoni: > Some good news: The Sakha Wiki community keeps being surprisingly > active. I don't know this language, but i read the mailing list of > that community, which is mostly written in Russian, and often > contribute to it (i also asked t

Re: [Foundation-l] Sakha Wikipedia passed 7000 articles

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:29:01 +0300, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote: > Some good news: The Sakha Wiki community keeps being surprisingly > active. I don't know this language, but i read the mailing list of > that community, which is mostly written in Russian, and often > contribute to it (i also asked to