On 12/10/10 1:01 AM, Michael Snow wrote:
On 12/9/2010 3:28 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
Calling Jimmy Wikipedia founder was already incredibly close to crossing
the line. Calling Sue Wikipedia Executive Director clearly crosses the
line. From reading your posts today, I believe you agree.
While I
I'd seriously advocate against this. Citizendium is well known to have
major, major problems. You may have heard about the Homeopathy
situation, where not only was a dangerous article - it suggested
homeopathy be used to treat life-threatening conditions - written by
homeopaths, with nary a word
Actually, why not just offer Citizendium space on Wikia? Could that be done?
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Adam Cuerden cuer...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd seriously advocate against this. Citizendium is well known to have
major, major problems. You may have heard about the Homeopathy
situation,
Mind you, the problems remain,... I don't know, I'm flying to America
tomorrow, and have been running around for weeks trying to get stuff
done, while the UK was under the grip of the worst weather in 50
years.
I think that Citizendium is a toxic asset, and Wikipedia almost
certainly shouldn't
On 14 December 2010 09:41, Adam Cuerden cuer...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, why not just offer Citizendium space on Wikia? Could that be done?
That's not really a discussion for this mailing list. I'm not sure CZ
would accept such an offer even if it were made, though. Accepting
help from
You can claim to call it Devouard's Law, if preferable.
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 12/10/10 1:01 AM, Michael Snow wrote:
On 12/9/2010 3:28 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
Calling Jimmy Wikipedia founder was already incredibly close to crossing
the
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001!
This is exciting, because there is lots of article history in here
which was assumed to be
That's fantastic news, and just in time for the 10th anniversary too,
when I'm sure the early days of Wikipedia will be in the limelight.
Great find Tim!
Would it be at all possible to import these into the current system? I
know someone was importing edits from the Nostalgia wiki. It would be
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001!
This is
Tim,
wonderful news!
Thank you for making them publicly available!
Of course I immediately downloaded them, and I must have a look at them
later this week. Though they are from before I became active (2003) I am
very curious if the articles in these files still exist, and how much they
changed.
Great news indeed!
Now I can finally figure out when my first edit was :-)
Magnus
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
On 12/14/2010 7:54 AM, Tim Starling wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001!
I guess producing database dumps was easier in
This is fantastic, and the timing could not be better.
If anyone finds anything noteworthy, please add it to the timeline of
Wikipedia that we're building at the 10th anniversary wiki,[1] as well as
the other tools for cataloging interesting tidbits from our history.[2]
1.
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:58:02PM +0100, Kim Bruning wrote:
Ok, people wanting to run F/L/OSS/Wiki projects with me, send me a mail,
and I'll sort things out. If citizendium wants to run on my
system then I'll at
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001!
This is
This is definitely a tremendous asset leading up to our big bday in January. I
hope we can extract and post some of the real gems.
Thanks for the resourcefulness and the sharing, Tim.
On Dec 14, 2010, at 10:04 AM, phoebe ayers wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling
On 14 December 2010 09:41, Adam Cuerden cuer...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, why not just offer Citizendium space on Wikia? Could that be done?
WMF has no control over wikia in any way shape or form. Wikia is
separate from us. now on the basis that wikia isn't picky about what
it hosts it would
Hi,
I am thinking of recommending a wiki database to a research project
planned at Erfurt University. The group I have to advise is planning to
edit late 17th and early 18th century letters of the republic of
letters with the aim to reconstruct the flow of ideas and the personal
networks that
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001!
This is
This is so exciting! To Steven's point: we've also started a page
where folks can add bits of interesting information as they excavate
the files [1]. Can't wait to dig in!
Congrats, Tim!
[1] http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_in_the_Beginning
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:20:10 -0800
From:
What has been written about 10 years of Wikipedia
brought to my mind thoughts of victory disease
(1), groupthink (2), hubris (3), narcissism (4),
communal reinforcement (5), consensus reality
(6), confirmation bias (7) or, more
appropriately, Wikiality (8) as well as nemesis
(9), Watergate
In a message dated 12/14/2010 8:21:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
steven.wall...@gmail.com writes:
This is fantastic, and the timing could not be better.
If anyone finds anything noteworthy, please add it to the timeline of
Wikipedia that we're building at the 10th anniversary wiki,[1] as
FYI, there is an existing timeline at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_timeline
And lots of other wikipedia history pages on English, too.
:)
Phoebe
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Moka Pantages mpanta...@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is so exciting! To Steven's point: we've also
Winrar's your best bet. Other archivers may be equally good.
FT2
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:53 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 12/14/2010 8:21:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
steven.wall...@gmail.com writes:
This is fantastic, and the timing could not be better.
If anyone
Would prefer on its own wiki as this is comprehensive up to a given date.
Maybe January2001.wikipedia.org -- immediate impact.
(DNS software cannot handle 2001.wikipedia.org)
FT2
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim
See see also etc in [[History of Wikipedia]].
FT2
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:27 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
FYI, there is an existing timeline at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_timeline
And lots of other wikipedia history pages on English, too.
:)
Phoebe
On
Hi Olaf,
This would be a good WikiProject within Wikisource, or on top of Wikisource.
Do you have scans of the letters?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikisource
Wikisource is already set up to manage the transcription and
presentation of the letters, pages about authors, etc., and the
community
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:53 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
Btw how does one *open* this tarball thing (on Windows) ?
I'm a fan of http://www.7-zip.org/
--
James Alexander
jameso...@gmail.com
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Right in time! And the rightly early version too!
Kudos to the diggers and bashers!
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:23, Moka Pantages mpanta...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
This is so exciting! To Steven's point: we've also started a page
where folks can add bits of interesting information as they
On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001!
That's wonderful news. Is this for enWP only or
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Henning Schlottmann
h.schlottm...@gmx.net wrote:
On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
backups of the text of Wikipedia, from
Here are a couple of quick indexes into the dump file. I didn't venture into
the binary revision data. You'll find an alphabetized list of articles that
contains all the diffs for each article in the order that they occured in
the dump and a sorted index into each revision as well.
Hi Magnus,
On 14.12.2010 22:35, Magnus Manske wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Henning Schlottmann
h.schlottm...@gmx.net wrote:
On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
HomePage
* WikiPedia
* PhilosophyAndLogic
* UnitedStates
* PopularMusic
* SportS
* MathematicsAndStatistics
* CountriesOfTheWorld
* AaA
* AfghanistaN
* UuU
* TechnologY
* ComputinG
* ComputerSoftware
*
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Henning Schlottmann
h.schlottm...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi Magnus,
On 14.12.2010 22:35, Magnus Manske wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Henning Schlottmann
h.schlottm...@gmx.net wrote:
On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote:
I was looking through some old
It's quite interesting that this topic has surfaced. The applications
of such software might be of great interest in many areas. Some of
those applications seem so powerful that it seems likely that this
might be already well developed. The application mentioned in the
opening of this thread
On 14.12.2010 23:47, Magnus Manske wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Henning Schlottmann
Not true. The first other languages were introduced on March 15 and
could be part of this archive if the different Wikipedias were in one
database under UseMod.
My earliest recorded entry in
2010/12/14 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
HomePage
* WikiPedia
* PhilosophyAndLogic
* UnitedStates
* PopularMusic
* SportS
* MathematicsAndStatistics
* CountriesOfTheWorld
* AaA
*
On 15/12/10 07:36, Henning Schlottmann wrote:
On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote:
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I
opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete
backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001!
On 12/14/10 2:39 PM, KIZU Naoko wrote:
You can claim to call it Devouard's Law, if preferable.
Haha, no. It is far too similar to Godwin Law. It would be plagiarism
(#evil).
But I stand up by my claim. I would be curious to see how it evolves.
Any mention of censorship --- reference to
I hope some of you may have seen/discussed these pages (as well as the
connected pages):
http://web.archive.org/web/20010418152404/www.nupedia.com/
upto
http://web.archive.org/web/20030730075209/http://www.nupedia.org/
Of course the domain name then, was nupedia.org.
-vp
On Wed, Dec 15,
And here is the first http://wikipedia.com archive link available at web
archive.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010727112808/http://www.wikipedia.org/
2010/12/15 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) vp2...@gmail.com
I hope some of you may have seen/discussed these pages (as well as the
connected pages):
Browsing through the earliest revisions in the revision index (
http://grey.colorado.edu/wikipedia_2001/revisions.html) is rather
interesting and full of fodder for founder debates. Consider these very
early revisions:
[http://www.nupedia.com Nupedia.com] is an open content, international,
peer
Here is an interesting bit of history - the Wikipedia logo was first an
American flag. Then Scott Moonen suggested we make it a globe:
In its first day of existences, because the nearest thing to hand for
JimmyWales that was suitable for a logo was an American flag,
WikiPedia had the American
Is there any database backup of Nupedia? Or the articles were posted as HTML
pages?
2010/12/15 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) vp2...@gmail.com
And here is the first http://wikipedia.com archive link available at web
archive.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010727112808/http://www.wikipedia.org/
On 15/12/10 11:17, Brian J Mingus wrote:
Browsing through the earliest revisions in the revision index (
http://grey.colorado.edu/wikipedia_2001/revisions.html) is rather
interesting and full of fodder for founder debates. Consider these very
early revisions:
[http://www.nupedia.com
An'n 15.12.2010 01:36, hett Brian J Mingus schreven:
http://grey.colorado.edu/wikipedia_2001/979773872.txt
Nice to see that the quality of posts on the mailing lists was low and
discussions lame and rapidly off-topicking since ... the very first day! ;-)
Marcus Buck
User:Slomox
One member of the fundraising team had it on her Christmas list. Another
literally begged for it. So today, I feel quite a sense of accomplishment in
announcing that the Wikimedia Foundation is now able to accept recurring
monthly contributions as a giving option for our donors. Recurring
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