Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread Dan Rosenthal
I think you're missing the humor in the choice of word misspelled. If you're going to criticize Fred's intelligence, you should take care to ensure that you spell intellectual correctly. Otherwise, it puts quite a damper on your argument. If I was getting heart surgery, I would want my surgeon

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
I'm glad to learn that you're already feeling better. That post is a lot better than *cough*. There's no humor in the choice of word misspelled. It just so happen that I was betrayed by my mother tongue. That's how intellectual is spelled. That is a common mistake both in words or numbers. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread Fred Bauder
I'm always amazed at the depthness and breadth of knowledge shown on these posts. The precision, accuracy of the quantitative data on which posts to this listed are based, making it one of the most reliable, highly educated and respected fora of the Internet. They are a true mirror of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Virgilio: Your userpage claims you speak American English at an en-4 near-native level. Want to try again? -Dan On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:47 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: When I misspelled the word intellectual I wasn't referring to certain people whose language skills revolve around

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote: Virgilio: Your userpage claims you speak American English at an en-4 near-native level. Want to try again? Your messages are deliberately obnoxious, unpleasant, and off-topic to boot. Cut it out, please. -- Andrew

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Sunday 03 April 2011 12:03:56 Dan Rosenthal написа: Your userpage claims you speak American English at an en-4 near-native level. Want to try again? My observation of the natives shows that they commonly commit errors of this magnitude :) On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:47 AM, Virgilio A. P.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread aude
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: I don't expect that this sort of initiative will be a complete success even with full internet access for everyone. We know from experience that getting everybody to agree to anything, even to no-brainers, on line is

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread Sarah
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 23:14, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: intelectual *cough* -Dan I hope the next time I write in Portuguese, the only mistake I make is a typo! :) ___

[Foundation-l] Fwd: A lack of newbies that stick

2011-04-03 Thread David Gerard
Post from elsewhere, forwarded with author's permission. From: Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net Date: 3 April 2011 14:44 [quote snipped] Just a little contrarianism on this ... Should we be worried about the trendline in newer editors (and more on this below) or the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: A lack of newbies that stick

2011-04-03 Thread Bence Damokos
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:33 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Certainly someone else can do more formal research and come up with actual numbers. But as for me I think it's ridiculous at worst and premature at best to say that new users are becoming less sticky when, it seems to me,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: A lack of newbies that stick

2011-04-03 Thread Sarah
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 09:53, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: The study examined those people who have registered and made at least one edit, and the ratio of the people who stuck on after their first edit has gone down, which is the basis of concern. Bence, I think the question is:

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: A lack of newbies that stick

2011-04-03 Thread Phil Nash
We've not had SUL (Single User Login) for that long, and my impression is that this will tend to inflate the number of registered accounts compared with the number of active accounts. Many such editors will still stay on to edit their home wiki, without ever editing WP, except perhaps as a test

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: A lack of newbies that stick

2011-04-03 Thread Isabell Long
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 06:33:32PM +0100, Phil Nash wrote: We've not had SUL (Single User Login) for that long, and my impression is that this will tend to inflate the number of registered accounts compared with the number of active accounts. Yes, due to the sheer number of accounts that

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: A lack of newbies that stick

2011-04-03 Thread Sarah
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:51, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 06:33:32PM +0100, Phil Nash wrote: We've not had SUL (Single User Login) for that long, and my impression is that this will tend to inflate the number of registered accounts compared with the number

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: A lack of newbies that stick

2011-04-03 Thread Lodewijk
Or they can be people scared away by unfriendly welcome :) There are many reasons, and it's hard to guess. The best is still to have a range of criteria, and see where they differ. As far as I understand the trend remains the same in all evaluated criteria, although the steepness differs.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki-revolution

2011-04-03 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 04/03/11 5:58 AM, Sarah wrote: On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 23:14, Dan Rosenthalswatjes...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: intelectual *cough* -Dan I hope the next time I write in Portuguese, the only mistake I make is a typo! :) Funny enough I