Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-24 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with the point you make, but still think it's the right thing. Essentially the counter argument boils down to if they don't know there's a BLP they can't make work for us about it. Whatever is in the BLP will be there

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-24 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with the point you make, but still think it's the right thing. Essentially the counter argument boils down to if they don't know there's a

Re: [Foundation-l] Scheduled intermittent downtime on all Wikimedia projects on May 24

2011-05-24 Thread Thomas Morton
So, just a quick thought for future reference - during maintenance is it possible in future to update the error message to explain that maintenance is ongoing? Seeing as how widely WMF projects are used by a non-technical project the current MySQL connection error I am seeing on Commons is just

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

2011-05-24 Thread Milos Rancic
On 05/24/2011 03:03 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I am preparing document for Wikimania. Presently, I am in process of analyzing data (SIL [1], Ethnologue [2], Wikimedia projects). I am using Ethnologue data for population

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

2011-05-24 Thread me
Zitat von Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I am preparing document for Wikimania. Presently, I am in process of analyzing data (SIL [1], Ethnologue [2], Wikimedia projects). I am using Ethnologue data for population

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

2011-05-24 Thread me
Zitat von m...@marcusbuck.org: A supply of content is a prerequisite to stimulate demand in content. After all one of the biggest problems of a fledgling Wikipedia is that few people have the dedication to work on a project that will probably not take off for years to come. It's easier to

[Foundation-l] readership draft for feedback

2011-05-24 Thread Mani Pande
Hello All, We are in the process of fielding a survey of Wikipedia readers to understand the needs of Wikipedia readers. The survey will get their opinion on Wikipedia content, understand what are the barriers to editing Wikipedia, understand how they use Internet, and get some quantitative

Re: [Foundation-l] readership draft for feedback

2011-05-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Mani Pande, 24/05/2011 18:53: The draft of the survey, and a FAQ section is available on meta, if you are interested. Here is the link to meta space that I have set up for the survey. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Readership_survey It would also be interesting to have some answers to the

Re: [Foundation-l] readership draft for feedback

2011-05-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Mani Pande, 24/05/2011 18:53: The draft of the survey, and a FAQ section is available on meta, if you are interested. Here is the link to meta space that I have set up for the survey. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Readership_survey It would also be interesting to have some answers to the

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

2011-05-24 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:47 PM, m...@marcusbuck.org wrote: A single dedicated person could be enough to put a project in motion. A dean of a Nigerian college who integrates Wikipedia article creation in the instruction plan (if you create 200 Nigerian pidgin Wikipedia articles this semester

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

2011-05-24 Thread Marcus Buck
An'n 24.05.2011 19:13, hett Ilario Valdelli schreven: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:47 PM,m...@marcusbuck.org wrote: A single dedicated person could be enough to put a project in motion. A dean of a Nigerian college who integrates Wikipedia article creation in the instruction plan (if you create

Re: [Foundation-l] Scheduled intermittent downtime on all Wikimedia projects on May 24

2011-05-24 Thread Itzik Edri
I totally agree with Thomas. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: So, just a quick thought for future reference - during maintenance is it possible in future to update the error message to explain that maintenance is ongoing? Seeing as how

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

2011-05-24 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Free_speechYes it is. Editing Wikipedia is a privilege granted to you by the permission of the Wikimedia Foundation, and can be revoked at any time for whatever reason that organization sees fit to do so. As a private website, Wikipedia has the legal

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

2011-05-24 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
What is called community consensus WILL permit you to be banned from any project or mailing list. Even if there is no community consensus, anyone with the right buttons can do it without any need to justify, explain or write anything that remotely resembles something objective. Furthermore,

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

2011-05-24 Thread FT2
Oh dear. This just lost a lot of respect (whatever respect is remaining). So if someone (anyone?) can cause another person problems, they will? I must remember that as the default expectation of society, or Wikipedia communities at least. Documented as being that extreme by reliable sources no

Re: [Foundation-l] Scheduled intermittent downtime on all Wikimedia projects on May 24

2011-05-24 Thread Liam Wyatt
Speaking of WP downtime, you might be particularly interested in today's XKCD: http://xkcd.com/903/ wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 24 May 2011 21:35, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: I totally agree with Thomas. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Thomas Morton

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

2011-05-24 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Oh my! That's news for you? Let's see. Just a sample from firsthand experiences. 1) From Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vapmachado#Updated_request_for_assistance The work on Meta was being done in an orderly manner until the disruption provoked and caused by those same people