Re: [Foundation-l] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-06-24 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Heilman, sent from my mobile. On Jun 24, 2011 12:46 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't actually Herman's fault. It's the email addy for the linking account. On Jun 24, 2011 12:10 AM, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com wrote: Please don't spam the list. Kthxbai. On Thu, Jun

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote: But going forward, the idea that a stranger can ride into town and instantly lead a global movement-- that's not gonna be sustainable, I don't think. This central thought resonated so strongly with me that I had to

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Milos Rancic, 24/06/2011 03:54: However, the most important issue in relation to all of those appointments is that Board itself was highly disorganized. I mean, why to organize NomCom when the only product of NomCom's work was to propose keeping current members and not to do anything else? Why

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Joseph, yes you are right that it looked not good for the board at that time, and we were all aware of that and nobody on the board at that time was happy about that. But in my opinion this is the responsibility of the board. A board should make decisions according to if it is right or

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-24 Thread teun spaans
Thank you, Ryan. I did a quick check. The count for that Template:PD-Layout is indeed some 3.3 million. I went to commons, and looked up the Template:PD-Layout. I think the correct link is: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-Layout. Then I looked up the lionk: What links here. The

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Alec, it is so interesting that you mentioned the idea of the board as a government. It reminds me of a blog post of Gerard during the election in which he said that he is candidating but he don't want to be a politician. And that blog post again reminds me of something happened earlier

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 06/22/11 1:46 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 22:24, Lodewijklodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: 2011/6/22 Milos Rancicmill...@gmail.com There are at least three serious issues in creation of such projects, if they are not defined strictly linguistically: * Scope. Which

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 06/23/11 1:30 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: people working at teacher schools in switzerland approached us a couple of times to push into a direction of *having wikipedia for different age groups *. first discussed ideas included the *groups **kids, junior, standard, *and * expert*. this would

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/24/2011 11:40 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: On 06/22/11 1:46 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: I have a friendly advice for you (and I hope that Michael and Gerard wouldn't kill me because of that): If you are able to create really valid community and your language is not considered as a world one (as

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Milos, First of all, in my opinion this should not be a discussion about language but rather about viability. Like Ray explained, if you try to define everything into detail (we cannot allow...) then you might kill the idea before it is born. Let us first think about whether we /want/ to have

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread Alec Conroy
If it is technically viable, I would love to see some way to create such projects (standalone or not) Do we have any data on the resource usage of a creating a new standalone project? If it's, as I expect, relatively trivial, then why not make a simplified dutch project? The worst that

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/24/2011 01:42 PM, Lodewijk wrote: Let us first think about whether we /want/ to have such projects before we dive into details about specific definitions etc. That is also the reason why I personally think this should not be an issue for the Language Committee in the first place.

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread Lodewijk
Hi, just to be totally clear: I do not intend to pursue simple Dutch Wikipedia myself, I only took that as an example of a typical language that is not a world language etc - for major languages present in many countries/regions the need can only be higher (simple Spanish, French, Chinese,

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-24 Thread Andre Engels
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, teun spaans teun.spa...@gmail.com wrote: None of these 5 seem to qualify as fitting into the gap of death of the author between 50 and 70 years ago, though for File:Alicebeggar.png and File:AliceSilvy.png: this is not 100% sure - if the artist was 20 years

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Snow writes: And for people who were worrying about the implications, I think setting things up in stages is just as likely to make it look worse as to make it look better. I think Michael's point here

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread rupert THURNER
what could be done to get wikipedia for different age groups off the ground? would there be a possibility to get pilot space? On Jun 24, 2011 11:55 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: On 06/23/11 1:30 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: people working at teacher schools in switzerland approa...

Re: [Foundation-l] Showdown

2011-06-24 Thread Austin Hair
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.pt wrote: The evidence is in. http://human-rights-in-cyberspace.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_Wikipedia_language_issues/Recomenda%C3%A7%C3%B5es_de_sentido_%C3%BAnicoWanton vandalism Your move. I'm not sure whose move it

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/24/2011 01:58 AM, Kat Walsh wrote: It also wasn't an easy decision to make. The question came down to this one: do we necessarily refuse someone as a candidate solely because they were proposed by a funder? As a

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Sue Gardner
On 24 June 2011 10:22, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: There is only one thing I think wrong with the consensus narrative above. The description Matt added so much value it was worth the risk. More accurately it would read Matt added so much value it was worth the *cost*. Thank you, Brigitte

[Foundation-l] ISO: Historical Photos of Wikimania

2011-06-24 Thread Moka Pantages
Hi! Itzik Edri, on the Wikimania 2011 organizing team, is in the process of putting together a few opening videos for Wikimania and we need your help: if anyone has photos or video from Wikimanias of the past, could you please send on? He'd like to include them in one of the opening videos. If

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/24/2011 07:57 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I also sat on NomCom during this time period. I cannot agree that Matt's appointment was more problematic than Stu's or Jan-Bart. Frankly all the appointed board seats are problematic, and I cannot understand how you can focus on Matt's

[Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

2011-06-24 Thread Milos Rancic
While preparing Missing Wikipedias [1], I've got numbers of speakers and languages by area and country with chapter not covered by Wikipedias. Numbers are preliminary, some of them should be corrected. I didn't exclude Han languages, which mostly shouldn't be counted, and similar. Note, also,

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 87, Issue 78

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Godwin
Sue Gardner writes: Would inviting Matt to join create perception problems? Probably not among external stakeholders because donors serving on boards is fairly normal in non-profit land, but yes among community members, because the community is (appropriately) a fierce defender of the

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 87, Issue 78

2011-06-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Hear, hear !! Thanks, GerardM On 25 June 2011 07:29, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Sue Gardner writes: Would inviting Matt to join create perception problems? Probably not among external stakeholders because donors serving on boards is fairly normal in non-profit land,