No reason not to allow users to select their own language easily, especially
given that browser language preferences and location are anything but a
surefire predictor of language preference.
2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
Hoi,
Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming
Keegan Peterzell wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
Both the Wikimedia Board and Wikimedia Foundation staff have treated the
image filter as a fait accompli. I think downplaying this reality is
predictable and lamentable in Sue's post.
Individuals and
On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please
discuss the blog on the blog and not thread this too much back to
conversation
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please
On 29 September 2011 07:40, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
This post appears mostly to be the tone argument:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Tone_argument
- rather than address those opposed to the WMF
Hoi,
The difficulty is in predicting what language to use when you do not have a
cookie. Obviously, you can select any language you like.
Thanks,
Gerard
2011/9/28 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
No reason not to allow users to select their own language easily,
especially
given that
@Kim: Subtitles might be a good way to go. I'll see about putting up the
full screenplays, once I've translated them into English.
@Phil: Well', we do have some translations (6 at the moment) at
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf/Three_Wikipedia_films. We could
do the full subtitle
Wikizine.org's __
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/ /\ /| __/ \ V V / \__ \
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*Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser
language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match.
*
No it doesn't. I live in Portugal and my Firefox and my Opera are in
Portuguese and - If I don't log in - they only show me the English version
Yes, my browser language is Spanish and I got the page in English. Also, in
response to Gerard's comment: Obviously, you can select any language you
like. - well, where? Where is the language selector? I don't see it
anywhere. There doesn't appear to be a language list, a selector, a button
or
M. Williamson, the only way to see the Main Page in other language is log
in, going to http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Preferences and change it
to Spanish (which I'm guessing is your native language).
As a IP is impossible (at least for me) and before someone complain: Yes,
I'm sure my IP
2011/9/29 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com:
As a IP is impossible (at least for me) and before someone complain: Yes,
I'm sure my IP is identified as been Portuguese.
Wikimedia Commons offers anonymous users the possibility to see the
site in their (guessed) language AFAIK. I'm sure it's not
On 29/09/11 04:12, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs wrote:
On 28/09/11 13:44, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.rs
wrote:
The photograph does not constitute an origin or beginning.
Sure it
Facts and Opinions on the copyright can be added to the Wikipedia talk page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dead_Sea_Scrolls#Google_scans
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John Vandenberg
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And of course this is a huge usability problem. Imagine I'm travelling in
the Netherlands and use a public computer in an Internet cafe. I don't have
an account on TranslateWiki, the auto language select is actually working
(it doesn't appear to be working right now), and I don't speak a word of
Yes, when I went to commons I was pleased to get a notice that said
Wikimedia Commons está disponible en español at the top of the page.
Doesn't obligate the user to change, and the language chooser bar offers the
user a plethora of other choices in case the language guess was wrong. Would
be nice
With all due respect the state of meta main page is at a dismal state. Some
translations are over a year old in content. The goal of this endeavour is
to offer up to date info in many languages. Feel free to hop in to assist
with the effort. :)
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Thu, Sep 29,
You can go to http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Main_Page?setlang=es but
that's obviously not something everyone knows. I once added a language
selector but it was removed at some point. I added it back now.
2011/9/29 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com:
Yes, when I went to commons I was pleased to get
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote:
On 29/09/11 04:12, Anthony wrote:
Why not? What constitutes an original photograph, as opposed to
whatever this photograph is?
An original photograph is a photograph that fixes an original image.
You're just
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote:
On 29/09/11 04:12, Anthony wrote:
You need to reread what I said. I was not making a pro-copyright argument.
You need to rewrite what you wrote so that it reflects what you meant.
You were making a pro-copyright
And by the way, if you want to have a good translatable Meta Main Page
(which is absolutely necessary), you can take a look at Incubator's
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Main_Page and its system
:-)
2011/9/29 Robin Pepermans robinp.1...@gmail.com:
You can go to
Hi Lennart.
Thank you for these. I'll be using the Läraren video on this coming
Monday at This Is Not Art.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Newcastle/TINA2011
The other two are not as obviously about Wikipedia.
--
John Vandenberg
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I already devised a good way which is very similar to the page you linked.
:3
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 15:49, Robin Pepermans robinp.1...@gmail.comwrote:
And by the way, if you want to have a good translatable Meta Main Page
(which is absolutely necessary),
For anybody interested: I wrote a blog-post full of disagreement :-)
http://asinliberty.blogspot.com/2011/09/sorry-sue-gardner-but-image-filter.html
regards,
southpark
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:45 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 07:40, Keegan Peterzell
That is a good point, John. Maybe we should add more closeups of Wikipedia
in future films.
Thanks for the feedback.
Best wishes,
Lennart
2011/9/29 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com
Hi Lennart.
Thank you for these. I'll be using the Läraren video on this coming
Monday at This Is Not Art.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:45 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
The complete absence of mentioning the de:wp poll that was 85% against
any imposed filter is just *weird*. Not mentioning it, and not
acknowledging why someone would do that, doesn't make it go away.
As you say, this
It makes some sense. If you come to the conclusion that your
constituency for a particularly important decision is a huge and
diverse array of people (i.e. the readers), and then further conclude
that opposition to your decision is coming from a very narrow and
homogenous slice of that array
An entertaining discussion - let's see if I understand the essence of
the thread...
Facts:
High resolution photos (of the Dead Sea Scrolls) were recently released
under an Israeli copyright.
(Obviously this does not constitute copyright of the scrolls themselves.)
A great deal of technical and
Am 29.09.2011 17:00, schrieb Nathan:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:45 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
The complete absence of mentioning the de:wp poll that was 85% against
any imposed filter is just *weird*. Not mentioning it, and not
acknowledging why someone would do that, doesn't
...and Nikerabbit removed it giving only the explanation: not here, per
Nikerabbit (would have already fixed the real issues if only somebody had
told me)
It seems like he's saying that someone should've let him know about the
autoselection issue, but he doesn't seem to agree that _even with_
On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please
discuss the blog on the blog and not thread this too much back to
conversation
On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally,
please
discuss the blog on the blog and not thread this too much back to
On 29 September 2011 22:46, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please
discuss the
On 29 September 2011 23:45, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 22:46, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
Pretty sound
On 29 September 2011 23:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 23:45, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 22:46, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
The trouble with responding on the blog is that responses seem to be
being arbitrarily
On 29 September 2011 23:53, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
Not dealing with pending comments promptly doesn't sound like
arbitrary filtering to me...
Note comments from others in this thread experiencing the same.
- d.
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On 29 September 2011 23:55, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 23:53, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
Not dealing with pending comments promptly doesn't sound like
arbitrary filtering to me...
Note comments from others in this thread experiencing the
On 9/28/11 11:30 PM, David Gerard wrote:
This post appears mostly to be the tone argument:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Tone_argument
- rather than address those opposed to the WMF (the body perceived to
be abusing its power), Sue frames their arguments as badly-formed and
that they
On 30 September 2011 00:28, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Well, when every thoughtful comment you have on a topic is met with
nothing more than chants of WP:NOTCENSORED!, the tone argument seems
quite valid.
Really, every single response to every single comment?
It suggests
This isn't just about the image filter. Try discussing whether or not
porn should be allowed on the Main page of Commons. Let me know if you
get any responses that don't cite [[WP:NOTCENSORED]]. Somehow the
majority of the community there believes that there are only two
possible positions on
* Keegan Peterzell wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
I don't think this is contributing much to the discussion. The point in
the blog post is basically just that people should discuss how to make
articles better. Everybody agrees. That, in the sense of the
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please
discuss
On 30 September 2011 00:34, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30 September 2011 00:28, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Well, when every thoughtful comment you have on a topic is met with
nothing more than chants of WP:NOTCENSORED!, the tone argument seems
quite valid.
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