Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

2012-01-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Actually, do we have somewhere a concise page with a list of say ten most urgent needs we need money for? Smth a banner can link to? Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

[Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread emijrp
Dear all; Bosnia's top cultural institutions[1] (National Museum, Historical Museum, National Gallery) and the National Library which was burnt in 1992, are closing their doors for funding disputes. This is a disaster for the spreading of human knowledge, and I don't see any blog post in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread geni
On 7 January 2012 13:01, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all; Bosnia's top cultural institutions[1] (National Museum, Historical Museum, National Gallery) and the National Library which was burnt in 1992, are closing their doors for funding disputes. This is a disaster for the spreading

Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

2012-01-07 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Actually, the initiative of Article Feedback Tool is going pretty much into this direction, asking people (readers) to participate in a way they like and ultimately also making a path to make them contributors. Kind regards Ziko http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Article_feedback/Version_5 2012/1/7

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

2012-01-07 Thread James Heilman
Hey John. Not sure we why at WMC should be interested? Can you explain further... James Heilman Wikimedia Canada On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:11 AM, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.orgwrote: Send foundation-l mailing list submissions to foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread emijrp
It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Funding disputes can be sorted out in the same fashion SOPA disputes, if agents work to solve them and show interest. We can't say we care about

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

2012-01-07 Thread Sue Gardner
On 7 January 2012 07:47, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey John. Not sure we why at WMC should be interested? Can you explain further... James Heilman Wikimedia Canada I'm not John, but it's because of the copyright provisions. If Canada signs onto the Trans Pacific Partnership, it

[Foundation-l] Wikizine - Anno Domini MMXII Week II Number CXXXI

2012-01-07 Thread EN Wikizine
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Re: [Foundation-l] just wondering, are we going to take down en.wikipedia.org?

2012-01-07 Thread emijrp
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-04/tech/30586955_1_zynga-sopa-paypal 2011/12/12 emijrp emi...@gmail.com ANDDD HERE WE GO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Request_for_Comment:_SOPA_and_a_strike 2011/10/27 Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com Hi!

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread geni
On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Never ever imply that I am American again. Funding disputes can be sorted out in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Yes and I'm British. The reality is that museums and libraries close all the time for various reasons. There isn't much we can do about it. Well, just in this case a GLAM/GLAM-like initiative could help enormously, taking the museum expositions online. The problem is that AFAIR we do not have

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Strainu
2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com: We can't say we care about all human knowledge when we give priority to cases depending on our birthplace. Yes and I'm British. The reality is that museums and libraries close all the time for various reasons. There isn't much we can do about it. The

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Funding disputes can be sorted out in the same fashion SOPA disputes, if agents work to

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov
I'm struggling to see *why* people are arguing over whose cultural institution is larger/more important than the other's. Surely the point, as Yaroslav suggests, is to see how the WMF might be able to get involved ? Alex 2012/1/7 Strainu strain...@gmail.com 2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com:

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread emijrp
2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Never ever imply that I am American again. I'm not

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 9:12 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not implying that you are American. I'm just saying that you are an ignorant chauvinist. And there ends my subscription to Foundation-L. -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. Yes, it is. So what's the game plan? - d. ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Kevin Gorman
The WMF isn't telepathic, at least to the best of my knowledge. Before you sent this did you have any reason to believe that the WMF was already aware of the situation and its significance? If not - this email chain probably would have been more likely to be productive if your first email was

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread phoebe ayers
Thanks Kevin :) Yes, I am a professional librarian who follows such things (and listens to NPR!) and I somehow missed this story. I don't think it is a well known or reported on event. Thank you for bringing it to everyone's attention, it sounds like a tragedy. Following David, if anyone has

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread emijrp
2012/1/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. Yes, it is. So what's the game plan? I'm not sure. If the WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:13:58 +0100, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 January 2012 21:13, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure. If the WMF goals are to collect/preserve/disseminate educational content, they can start with the holdings in endangered cultural institutions. It is not my work, but some suggestions, from low to high involvement: * blog

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Kevin Gorman
Although the problem has not been solved, it appears that it has at least been staved off: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9S3I7DO1.htm Kevin Gorman User:Kgorman-UCB ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 00:36, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote: Although the problem has not been solved, it appears that it has at least been staved off: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9S3I7DO1.htm Obviously, cultural institutions are in bad situation and not just in

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread geni
On 7 January 2012 21:30, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: You realise that having raised it, you're the volunteer who gets to do the coordination and heavy lifting ;-) Are there any nearby local Wikimedia chapters/groups or similar groups (CC, librarians, etc) reading this who can help?

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Craig Franklin
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:25:33 +0400 From: Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions        Shutting Down To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List        foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID:

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread geni
On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not implying that you are American. I'm just saying that you are an ignorant chauvinist. Oh no nothing so nice I'm afraid. I'm a person who takes a genuinely internationalist view. The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina

[Foundation-l] Moderation

2012-01-07 Thread Nathan
This is well beyond acceptable discussion, and should draw attention from the mysterious and rarely seen list moderators. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 3:12 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

2012-01-07 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:47 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey John. Not sure we why at WMC should be interested? Can you explain further... Why wouldnt WMC be interested in changes to laws in Canada that reduce free cultural exchange? Michael Geist does a great job of explaining