Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-29 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 29.10.2011 21:57, schrieb Mateus Nobre: This is inconsistent for me. Wikilove's a global improvement, there's no reason to disagree improvements. Huh,I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at/Albuquerque/. How exactly is it a global improvement? Quite frankly I couldn't think of anything

Re: [Foundation-l] The image filter: Thoughts on the German/English question

2011-10-14 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Hi, I believe that most points are valid, but I disagree with item no. 11. The first part has already been mentioned in the thread following Ting Chen's letter with a statement that the board intends to make this a visible feature in all Wikimedia projects, and when people probed about it, I

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 05.10.2011 06:25, schrieb Aaron Adrignola: Should I expect that de.wikipedia would be allowed to stage a similar blackout should the image filter be implemented against their wishes, with the goal of protesting perceived or potential censorship? You can pretty much count on that. And

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 30.09.2011 16:24, schrieb Risker: The implication of your post is if you're a woman from the US, your opinion is invalid. Your post here did not further the discussion in any way, and I politely ask you to refrain from making such posts in the future. Weird. I've only seen a post where

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 30.09.2011 16:46, schrieb Risker: My question to you is why anyone would want to participate in a discussion where their opinions are going to be classified by their sex or their geographic location rather than their input. There's absolutely no harm in coming to a finding that, say, 80% of

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

2011-09-23 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 23.09.2011 14:03, schrieb m...@marcusbuck.org: I think the same is happening here. The majority of people probably think that an optional opt-in filter is a thing that does no harm to non-users and has advantages for those who choose to use it. (Ask your gramma whether You can hide pictures

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 18.09.2011 13:56, schrieb Andre Engels: On itself the one who tags the image, but we happen to have a system for that in Wikimedia. It is called discussion and trying to reach consent. Who decides whether a page is in a category? Who decides whether a page has an image? Who decides whether

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 18.09.2011 15:58, schrieb Fred Bauder: I do support censorship. There is absolutely no excuse for hosting an image of Mohammad as a dog, but this is a Rube Goldburg boondoggle. Nothing wrong with hosting that picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Muh-hund-original-rondellliten.JPG ).

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-16 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 16.09.2011 10:40, schrieb Peter Gervai: I believe it is a fair assumption that we have voted for developing the feature, so wikipedias who need it can activate and use it, while those who do not want to use it will not request its activation, or will request its deactivation. I see no

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-16 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 16.09.2011 12:39, schrieb emijrp: There are more issues with images in German Wikipedia. And on the other hand pictures are deleted from Commons because there is no FOP in the country where the pictures was taken. Regards, Oliver ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-16 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 16.09.2011 13:22, schrieb emijrp: Again, who are we? And why do German laws matter with USA servers? Why does only German Wikipedia exclude that images? Are English Wikipedia or Commons blocked in Germany? It's not like the picture is used in every Wikipedia either. How about we just agree