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From: Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New
editor engagement experiments
And yet on the other hand, we have myself, User:Rodhullandemu, who has/had
over 1000,000 edits, including 6 GAs and 21 DYKs, not only blocked, but also
banned, on the basis of a dispute with one editor which has been
subsequently vindicated in part by ArbCom, and some airy-fairy nonsense
1: pedophiles are being blocked even if they are not advocating, if I
remember correctly
2: they are blocked because their behaviour on the site is agains our
principles
Either they are advocating, or they are not. Either they are inappropriately
trying to contact minors, or they are not.
I'm assuming that this is the Peter Damian who is also
knol.google.com/k/edward-buckner/edward-buckner/2u2a5qlvdgh8h/1#
since he signs as Edward, rather than a troll seeking to impersonate the
banned Wikipedia editor of the same name, for nefarious purposes. In either
case, I have little
geni wrote:
On 14 October 2011 21:10, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I love Cracked. It's Wikipedia with dick jokes.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19453_6-reasons-were-in-another-book-burning-period-in-history_p2.html
To be ha ha only serious for a moment, this touches on why we all
church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
I don't read your posts, because (a) I don't trust attachments anyway, and
(b) if you have anything worthwhile to say, and are competent at interacting
on a mailing list, I see no reason why you should not be able to hit the
reply button in your mail program, and it
will in the world, I'll
leave it
Cheers
Thomas Dalton wrote:
Church's email worked fine for me. The only attachment was a
signature, the content itself was in normal email form. What mail
client are you using? On Oct 7, 2011 12:27 AM, Phil Nash
phn...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
I
Mike Godwin wrote:
Kat Walsh writes:
I am happy to see the Italian community behind the opposition to the
proposed law because I do think it's contrary to what Wikimedia does,
and to see that there is consensus among the Italian community to do
something drastic; there will be a far greater
Mark wrote:
On 10/5/11 1:50 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
The WMF isn't allowed to lobby for or against legislation, per our
501c3 non-profit status in the US. This is not necessarily true for
chapters though, and definitely not true for the communities.
Somewhat true, but not a red line. The IRS
David Levy wrote:
MZMcBride wrote:
I'd forgotten all about Toby. That was largely a joke, wasn't it?
Do not try to define Toby. Toby might be a joke or he might be
serious. Toby might be watching over us right now or he might be a
bowl of porridge. Toby might be windmills or he might
Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
Hi,
A while ago I made a bookmarklet that blurs images in articles on
the english Wikipedia and reveals them when the user hovers over the
image. I now had a chance to test this as a skin.js extension.
For a start, users would have to opt in to this, which may not
Kim Bruning wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 02:02:20PM +0200, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote:
Okay. I hope that I didn't stifle your comment, though. One idea:
Feel free to dub in your own voices if you want voices. That could
be very cool!
Best wishes,
Lennart
Actually, if this is going to
wrote:
Could people on this list please refrain from spamming this email with
requests to join LinkIn (and that includes Mike Godwin), as I have no
interest in joining.
Thank you.
That's an artefact of having a semi-open mailing list; I've been subscribed
here and on other WMF mailing
wrote:
On 24/09/2011 22:46, David Gerard wrote:
On 24 September 2011 22:40, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
The last I heard the German people, as expressed through their
lawmakers, DO NOT want their kids looking at porn or images that are
excessively violent. They go so far as
Carcharoth wrote:
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:
snip
[[User:Rodhullandemu]] - still flying the flag for Wikipedia, for
some inexplicable reason.
Does this refer to this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rodhullandemudiff
Carcharoth wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:
Starting at the back, and working forward, my posts are not random.
They are carefully selected examples based on my experience as
(currently) a reader of Wikipedia and my responses to what I found
Kim Bruning wrote:
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 02:24:37PM +0200, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
Hello Fae,
There should be no explicit statement because the WMF holds it
self-evident to preserve.
That reminds me of something O:-)
Perhaps something like this?
We, the wikimedia movement, hold these
Fae wrote:
On 19 September 2011 17:42, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
A dead human bodies category that excludes mummies because we're
not idiots is, by definition, not neutral.
I agree, sounds like the only solution is that we pour away a hefty
chunk of those charitably donated WMF
Phil Nash wrote:
Nothing to make this firm notable within [[WP:CORP]], except that
they've been criticised for their compensation-seeking techniques;
well, hot dog, that isn't unusual in the post ambulance-chasing
culture of some law firms since solicitors were deregulated from
advertising
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:
Sue Gardner wrote:
On 12 September 2011 18:15, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12 September 2011 23:45, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
Now: what do we need to do to make Wikinews
Sue Gardner wrote:
On 12 September 2011 18:15, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12 September 2011 23:45, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
Now: what do we need to do to make Wikinews better and more useful?
What are the costs and technical or other work involved?
Very little. Mostly
MZMcBride wrote:
Jimmy Wales wrote:
On 9/7/11 9:15 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
I think that damage produced by thiswhatever should be localized.
The target is English Wikipedia, Board is not especially interested
in other Wikipedia editions and other projects in English; which
means that it
MZMcBride wrote:
If someone wants to make Conservative Wikipedia or Kid-Friendly
Wikipedia or Tiananmen Square-Free Wikipedia, they're free to. They
can even sell it. Contributors made that deal long ago with the open
license of the sites.
Wikimedia's goal is to provide free educational
Sue Gardner wrote:
On 8 September 2011 19:01, Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
There's a major difference between online harassment, and robust
debate, although most of us can tell where we draw our own lines.
Oh yikes, Phil, please don't misunderstand me! The conversations we
were
Sue Gardner wrote:
On 8 September 2011 17:28, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
As I am speaking as a steward, I have to say that it's very good news
for us. Instead of being harassed because not dealing with
harassment, since the implementation of ToS that would be WMF's job.
That's
John Vandenberg wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org
wrote:
On 07/09/2011 11:17 AM, Bod Notbod wrote:
[...] but I'm even less keen on parents telling their
children they can't use Wikipedia [...]
It's not the first time I see this meme expressed.
John Vandenberg wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:
...
[[WP:ANI]] is hardly an example to our children, is it?
ANI isn't a content page.
As I understand it, all of Wikipedia is available to all readers. It follows
that the same standard should
John Vandenberg wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Many countries have different rating schemes for movies, television,
video games, and other media.
Which rating systems would apply to our content?
i.e. does the Australian regulatory body have
Fred Bauder wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Many countries have different rating schemes for movies, television,
video
games, and other media.
Which rating systems would apply to our content?
i.e. does the Australian regulatory body have
I don't understand why we need a Like button at all; it's open to personal
interpretation and therefore can be in contravention of many policies,
particularly NPOV. It's a bad idea, and should be strangled at birth.
Feedback is much more sensibly achieved through more subtle means.
Milos
Fred Bauder wrote:
As someone said previously, the mailing software truncates stuff
after the
word From, if it begins a sentence, probably because it thinks
that's part
of the mail header. No conspiracy or cloak and dagger stuff, just a
bug that probably ought to be looked at.
I'd take
If only I could be so sanguine; I cannot disagree with Fred's first
paragraph, but as regards his second I must take issue. For a start, current
events should be covered by Wikinews, and subsequent *encyclopedic
treatment of those events be dealt with in analytic terms and in retrospect,
by
Fred Bauder wrote:
If only I could be so sanguine; I cannot disagree with Fred's first
paragraph, but as regards his second I must take issue. For a start,
current
events should be covered by Wikinews, and subsequent *encyclopedic
treatment of those events be dealt with in analytic terms and
George Herbert wrote:
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:00 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:30 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 4 June 2011 15:42, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
I think it's a fairly dangerous precedent to have the Wikimedia
The Register seems to be the only forum that is prepared to expose the gross
injustice meted out to me as [[en:wp:User:Rodhullandemu]], so, sorry, if I
need to take that route, it's a lot cheaper than employing Max Clifford. I
have nothing to hide here. Best of luck with dealing with that, but
Fred Bauder wrote:
While I am all about openness and journalism, I had a recent incident
which made me re-think something on these lines.
I had a few years back, started creating an open visible
search-indexed index to ArbCom proceedings.
Some editors however edit using their real names, not
Oh dear. In the hurly-burly of Wikipedia especially, trenchant, even strong,
language seems to be accepted from some but not from others. Some give and
take should be allowed but when a top 100 contributor is desysopped for
little else by WP's ArbCom, who knows where the limits may be? This is
We've not had SUL (Single User Login) for that long, and my impression is
that this will tend to inflate the number of registered accounts compared
with the number of active accounts. Many such editors will still stay on to
edit their home wiki, without ever editing WP, except perhaps as a test
Marc Riddell wrote:
on 11/24/10 6:10 PM, wjhon...@aol.com at wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
Would this project answer the question I am trying to address today?
Which American actors died in 1970?
There does not appear to me, to be any obvious way of using the
built-in search engine to answer
Marc Riddell wrote:
on 11/24/10 7:25 PM, wjhon...@aol.com at wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/24/2010 4:11:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
michaeldavi...@comcast.net writes:
I just pulled up the Articles on two actors who I know died in
1970. One was
in the Category English Film
K. Peachey wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi folks,
I want to let you know that as of this Friday, October 22, 2010, Mike
Godwin will be leaving his role as General Counsel for the Wikimedia
Foundation.
...snip...
The search for his
Peter Damian wrote:
I don't know why such fuss has been made in the media about this.
Under Chinese law, Xiaobo is a criminal who has been sentenced by
Chinese judicial
departments for violating Chinese law
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/461876 His own community has
delivered a verdict
Nathan wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:
Peter Damian wrote:
I don't know why such fuss has been made in the media about this.
Under Chinese law, Xiaobo is a criminal who has been sentenced by
Chinese judicial
departments for violating Chinese
SlimVirgin wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 16:11, Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk
wrote:
I expect you might have an apology and weakly-argued defence
tomorrow, when you might have sobered up, but right now you are on
thin ice in epistemological terms and are closer to a 17-year old
newly
Fred Bauder wrote:
You understood, I'm sure, that he was making an exaggerated
comparison between the Chinese government's approach to public
debate and Wikipedia's governance? He clearly believes that Liu
Xiaobo has been mistreated (which he has been), and also that he and
others have been
Ryan Kaldari wrote:
I thought you were awarding the post a score of 0 :)
It would be all too cheap a jibe to attribute to a self-proclaimed
philosopher an ignorance of scientific method and assert that blind adoption
of the continuity principle is contrary to that method; however, it is fair
Peter Jacobi wrote:
The problem I see most, is Wikipedia articles becoming stale. No
corrections to defects, even those already been identified on talk
pages and in maintenance templates. The worst 20% of Wikipedia just
doesn't get better. Perhaps the entire worse half of Wikipedia.
It will
Gregory Kohs wrote:
Riddle me this...
Is the edit below vandalism?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arch_Coaldiff=255482597oldid=255480884
Did the edit take a page and make it worse? Or, did it make the
page a better available revision than the version immediately
prior to it?
Marc Riddell wrote:
on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote:
While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia
picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the
conclusions seem pretty accurate to me.
DM
And, until that changes, the
Foundation-l list admin wrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.pt
Date: Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Subject: pt:wiki policies
To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Sirs,
Yesterday (
Gregory Kohs wrote:
*phoebe ayers* phoebe.wiki at gmail.com writes:
++
I'm not sure there's any way to get a non-self-selected survey about
anything on the projects due to anonymity concerns.
++
I'm a 17-year veteran of implementing professional quantitative
survey research.
Gregory Kohs wrote:
*Phil Nash* pn007a2145 at blueyonder.co.uk said:
++
Except of course, that such a survey would arguably not have
preconceived desires. So much for empiricism!
++
I offered to give some pro bono guidance on overcoming (to a degree)
self-selection bias, even
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a
memorial project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his
concerns about the motives behind this proposal.
I'm in some agreement here because my experience of UK charity law is that
it is not generally
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:43, Phil Nash wrote:
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a
memorial project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his
concerns about the motives behind this proposal.
I'm in some
Mike Godwin wrote:
Anthony writes:
I'm sure they're in the process of changing their review system to
take
these issues into account. At the same time, requiring *all* images
to be
found illegal before taking action, would not be a good idea.
In this particular instance, however, it is
Robert Rohde wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Thomas Dalton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/11/27 David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/11/27 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Wikipedia is a charity ?
People always say non-profit when describing WMF, is it a
charity? The two terms are
Mike Godwin wrote:
Phil Nash writes:
I don't want to seem naive but it is unclear to me how this applies
to an
essentially non-profit organisation; if you can help me out with a
link, I'd
be grateful. Thanks.
I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you under the impression
that non
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