Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > El 5/14/09 3:16 PM, private musings escribió: >>     - Commons currently hosts many pictures, taken in a public place, without >>     the apparent permission of the subject... < >>     highly unlikely to me to be genuinely released under a fre

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Brion Vibber
El 5/14/09 3:16 PM, private musings escribió: > - Commons currently hosts many pictures, taken in a public place, without > the apparent permission of the subject, of various folk in various states > of > undress (think topless women at the beach as the best example) - I think > th

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-14 Thread private musings
fair enough, Pedro - I certainly don't want any weight, in terms of argument, placed on my opinion that this matters - I'd much rather stick to the substantive issues of the matter at hand it's more about discussing wether or not it's a problem that wmf hosts pic.s of topless chicks on the beac

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-14 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:06 PM, private musings wrote: > Re : Pedro - heh... I take your point - doesn't mean we shouldn't talk > about > the merits of the point at hand, though, no? If there's an improvement to > be > made, that's gonna be a good thing regardless of the opinion that it's also >

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-14 Thread private musings
Re : Masti - I agree with your position that if the license seems suspect, and the contributor can't (or won't) provide something a bit more, then the image should be deleted - that's not the consensus on commons however, for what that's worth - these doubts have been raised, and the image remains.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-14 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM, private musings wrote: > > I believe that this is an example of principle overriding pragmatism in a > way that has great potential to cause the project harm - both in reputation > and utility. If you're reading this and are a bit confuddled about the > parameters

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-14 Thread private musings
Re : This having been discussed, and my opinions being vigorously shot down - well yes, both you and Mike are largely correct - which to my mind is actually cause for concern for the sensibly minded - it's also my opinion that there's many such folk out there - many of whom choose not to get involv

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-14 Thread David Moran
This one's been discussed ad nauseam already, and I think the community's discussions pretty unambiguously tend towards keep. FMF On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Andre Engels wrote: > My opinion on this is clear: Commons should welcome both photographs > and pictures. Whether a project shows

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-13 Thread Andre Engels
My opinion on this is clear: Commons should welcome both photographs and pictures. Whether a project shows a picture or a photograph should be the project's decision, not that of Commons. Some may prefer one, others the other. Sexuality is in scope on Wikimedia projects, so its images are in scope