Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When we were to move away from a set of URL's from et to ekk, a generic redirect from et to ekk will suffice because there will be a one on one relation. The et named articles will never be used for anything else. This is true because this is how the standard works. For those wikis where the

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-23 Thread Marcus Buck
Lars Aronsson hett schreven: I'm not talking about dialects or legal standing. I'm talking about renaming thousands of URLs, breaking incoming links from other websites, for no good reason. After a rename the old link will stay as a redirect and won't change for a long time (at least

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-23 Thread Jon Harald Søby
2009/1/23 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se Gerard Meijssen wrote: When we were to move away from a set of URL's from et to ekk, a generic redirect from et to ekk will suffice because there will be a one on one relation. The et named articles will never be used for anything else. This is

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Lars, you are talking about Nynorsk and I am talking about Estonian. Thanks, GerardM 2009/1/23 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se Gerard Meijssen wrote: When we were to move away from a set of URL's from et to ekk, a generic redirect from et to ekk will suffice because there will

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-22 Thread Kjetil Lenes
If you consider Norwegian nynorsk to be a dialect, you have your facts wrong. It is one of two written forms of norwegian, they have the same legal standing. Kjetil Lenes Lars Aronsson skreiv: Gerard Meijssen wrote: It is nice that you oppose, there are reasons why it might be a bad

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Congratulations. As a consequence of the recognition of the Võro language, the Estonian language with the codes est and et has been made a macro language. This macro language contains two languages, Võro and Standard Estonian. Standard Estonian has the code of ekk. It is appropriate to

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is a request to rename the no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipedia.orgexactly for this reason. Thanks, GerardM 2009/1/21 Jüvä Sullõv juva...@ut.ee Thanks for congaratulations, Gerard! I am not still very sure if the fact that codes est and et have made to a macrolanguage codes

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This change for Estonian is not special. It has happened before where other codes changed their meaning and became a macro language. German (de) is a completely different type of language, in several ways it is more like Italian. I do not understand where you got this standard Estonian from,

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-21 Thread Mark Williamson
Prevent confusion from whom? I think we should let the et.wp community vote on this change instead of letting Gerard push it on them. Võro Wikipedians know to go to http://fiu-vro.wikipedia.org/, non-Võro Estonian Wikipedians know to go to http://et.wikipedia.org/ Introducing a new URL for Võro

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-21 Thread Lars Aronsson
Gerard Meijssen wrote: It is nice that you oppose, there are reasons why it might be a bad idea, but the ones that I know are not the ones you put forward. A reason why a change would be good is that it will prevent confusion. Come on, nobody is confused about what language Estonian is.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] vro

2009-01-21 Thread Marcus Buck
I agree on 'et', but the 'no' case is different. the codes 'no', 'nb' and 'nn' were present in ISO 639 since the beginning. 'no' is the code that covers both 'nn' and 'nb'. When 'nn' split from 'no' it would have been good, if 'no' had been moved to 'nb' the same time. The main difference