Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-10 Thread Aphaia
Not really, if you give your eyes to blogosphere global and hence multingual, including mine. I hope some would go through mine to the fundraising page, and some of trackbacks to my entry were clearly positive (I've donated them, you can do too) too. It is still anectodal, but I think it good to

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-10 Thread Aphaia
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Anders Wegge Keller we...@wegge.dk wrote: geni geni...@gmail.com writes: 2009/1/7 Anders Wegge Keller we...@wegge.dk: Now we can agree that fundraising banners that size are apparently effective which is good but thankyou banners that size less so. If a thank

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-09 Thread Erik Moeller
And - the banners should now be gone in all languages. In the coming days weeks we'll discuss what a consistent, non-obnoxious but visible Donate / We're a non-profit link could look like across projects. (Right now we have a Donate link in the sidebar, and some projects have experimented with

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-08 Thread Ray Saintonge
Erik Moeller wrote: As a 23-people organization, it's clear that our communication efforts need to culminate in volunteer-driven efforts of both a proactive and reactive nature. That's already the case to a great degree (thanks to volunteers like yourself), and I hope that we will continue to

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-08 Thread Marc Riddell
Erik Moeller wrote: As a 23-people organization, it's clear that our communication efforts need to culminate in volunteer-driven efforts of both a proactive and reactive nature. That's already the case to a great degree (thanks to volunteers like yourself), and I hope that we will continue

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-08 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Calling it a 23-people organization suggests a growing chasm between the volunteers and the hired hands. Well, I do indeed feel that chasm too, although perhaps it's more a case of a felt distance between the foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-08 Thread Marc Riddell
on 1/8/09 4:30 AM, Ray Saintonge at sainto...@telus.net wrote: Erik Moeller wrote: As a 23-people organization, it's clear that our communication efforts need to culminate in volunteer-driven efforts of both a proactive and reactive nature. That's already the case to a great degree (thanks to

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-08 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.netwrote: The Foundation - and those who represent it - seem to have forgotten that people are at the heart of what they are there to do. And, without the heart, it cannot live. Marc Riddell When this sort of thread

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-08 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/1/7 Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com: In that regard, one thought I have had is to create an identified place (on Meta for example) to solicit questions and feedback about the fundraiser from potential donors (and community members) with volunteers to respond. A lot of that happened

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread White Cat
Who is responsible for the code behind the fundraiser? I have a few proposals he or she may like. Its too late for this fundraiser but would help on the future ones Additionally I think the foundation should set a donation goal for the end of the year. Not as a begathon like the 6 mil one but

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I think the foundation did great with the last fundraiser. When we *need *something like 6 million dollar we should ask for it and it is legitimate to ask for it. It is really sad that people do not realise how much our aims suffer from a lack of investment. We need to do better, we can do

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread geni
2009/1/7 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: A quick update: the Thank You banner is currently scheduled to stay up until January 9, 4 PM PST. We're keeping it up a while longer in part because it's the first work week after the holidays for many people, and in part because it's an opportunity

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Michael Bimmler
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:11 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/7 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: A quick update: the Thank You banner is currently scheduled to stay up until January 9, 4 PM PST. We're keeping it up a while longer in part because it's the first work week after the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread geni
2009/1/7 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu: I think your point was clear, but maybe not. Please restate it for me more clearly. You appear to be under the impression I'm objecting to the donation banner ads. I'm not. I am however suggesting that while the donation banner ads are a necessary evil

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
geni geni...@gmail.com writes: Because I run daily searches of blogs for the term wikipedia. Because complaints have turned up all over the place on wikipedia. Because or editors who also have to read the thing have gone so far as to have a gadget to get rid of it. Because adblock which

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Brian
Supposing every blog post that mentioned 'wikipedia' and 'fundraiser' was negative, there would be 69,978. http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=wikipedia+fundraiser On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Brian

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread geni
2009/1/7 Anders Wegge Keller we...@wegge.dk: Whiners has always been quicker to the keyboard, then those without opinions either way. That's a human trait, i suppose. Failing to take this fact into the equation effectively invalidates your assesment. And since you haven't mentioned it by now,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
geni geni...@gmail.com writes: 2009/1/7 Anders Wegge Keller we...@wegge.dk: Whiners has always been quicker to the keyboard, then those without opinions either way. That's a human trait, i suppose. Failing to take this fact into the equation effectively invalidates your assesment. And since

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread geni
2009/1/7 Anders Wegge Keller we...@wegge.dk: geni geni...@gmail.com writes: 2009/1/7 Anders Wegge Keller we...@wegge.dk: Whiners has always been quicker to the keyboard, then those without opinions either way. That's a human trait, i suppose. Failing to take this fact into the equation

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Anecdotally, I thought it was about the same, but I did notice a LOT more questioning of what the money was going to. Like you, just impressions, no facts to back it up. -Dan On Jan 7, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Mathias Schindler wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Brian

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Mike Godwin
geni writes: It is also a opportunity to further annoy our readers. IT's pretty clear they don't like it and you know this because...? Because I run daily searches of blogs for the term wikipedia. Because complaints have turned up all over the place on wikipedia. Because or editors who

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/1/7 Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com: Anecdotally, I thought it was about the same, but I did notice a LOT more questioning of what the money was going to. Like you, just impressions, no facts to back it up. Perhaps so - an absolute increase of scrutiny is certainly to be expected as

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser update

2009-01-07 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: I challenge you to find 1% as many negative blog posts regarding the fundraiser as there are positive comments left by donors. Apart