Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-18 Thread Judson Dunn
This is sort of unrelated, but may be of interest to the people discussing language issues with search: http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2008/12/cross-language-enterprise-search.html Google is announcing some cross language searching for enterprise now anyway, where you might search in one

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-17 Thread Andrew Gray
2008/12/16 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net: It is still a very useful feature, though. It's a pity that you can't have two watchlists on en.wp, such that you can use one to keep an eye on articles you're particularly attached to, with the other handling all the rest. I find that a useful

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-16 Thread Michael Peel
On 13 Dec 2008, at 14:02, Platonides wrote: teun spaans wrote: Many times it works well. But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss. I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, making a bot

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-13 Thread Platonides
teun spaans wrote: Many times it works well. But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss. I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, making a bot come along and warn me. By pure coincidence i

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-13 Thread Platonides
Pharos wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu wrote: On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote: When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-13 Thread teun spaans
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: teun spaans wrote: Many times it works well. But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss. I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-09 Thread Waerth
The commons issue is not just a language issua. If it was it was solvable. It is a hositility issue. Where people who upload the second picture of the same object (like a TukTuk) get told it is not necassary because the project already has one picture of a TukTuk . The problem is that the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-09 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Gerard Meijssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoi, When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find paard and you will not be served in the same way as with horse the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Bimmler
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Magnus Manske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Gerard Meijssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoi, When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, An answer like that justifies and inforces the notion that Commons is only for those that can read / write English. To me this is not acceptable because it degrades Commons to less then what it should be, what it could be. Thanks, GerardM 2008/12/9 Magnus Manske [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-09 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote: When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find paard and you will not be served in the same way as with horse the search result is

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-08 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I speak as a big fan of and participant in Wikimedia Commons. But: Is it time to deprecate Commons as a WMF service project? It's clearly failing and the local community is actively hostile to contributors from other wikis.

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find paard and you will not be served in the same way as with horse the search result is inferior. Dutch is not the worst option, try ίππος and you

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Thomas Dalton
Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.) If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any useful results that way. ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/6 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.) If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any useful results that way. Are you speaking

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/6 David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/12/6 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.) If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:00:29 PM Subject: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening I speak as a big fan of and participant in Wikimedia Commons. But: Is it time

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Marc Riddell
on 12/6/08 4:04 PM, Thomas Dalton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.) If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any useful results that

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Marc Riddell
on 12/6/08 4:10 PM, David Gerard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/6 Thomas Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.) If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the discussion to only people that agree with