Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-07 Thread Béria Lima
*John Vandenberg: **Which project has had ArbCom members that were not admins? * Portuguese ArbCom members does not need to be an adm too. See please: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conselho_de_arbitragem/Elei%C3%A7%C3%B5es _ Béria Lima (Beh) Wikimedia Portugal 2010/12/6 John

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-06 Thread Huib Laurens
Dutch Wikipedia has multible members that aren't admins 2010/12/6, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: Sinds its not only English Wikipedia but foundation wide I can say we have people becomming Arbcom without being a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-05 Thread geni
On 4 December 2010 23:42, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.pt wrote: Could you please tell how long you have been around Wikimedia projects? I would like to have an idea of how much time it takes to find out that we have at least three hierarchical structures. You left out at least Santa

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-05 Thread Huib Laurens
Sinds its not only English Wikipedia but foundation wide I can say we have people becomming Arbcom without being a Admin.. We had CheckUsers without being a admin. So its not a ladder. Huib 2010/12/4 wjhon...@aol.com In a message dated 12/4/2010 6:50:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-05 Thread John Vandenberg
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: Sinds its not only English Wikipedia but foundation wide I can say we have people becomming Arbcom without being a Admin.. We had CheckUsers without being a admin. So its not a ladder. Hi Huib, Which project has had

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-04 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 12/4/2010 6:50:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Actually we have at least 3. Editor, admin bureaucrat, steward, dev. everyone, arbcom Everyone, foundation, foundation board. Not three Geni, one. Has anyone become Arbcom without being an

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-04 Thread geni
On 4 December 2010 16:56, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/4/2010 6:50:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: Actually we have at least 3. Editor, admin bureaucrat, steward, dev. everyone, arbcom Everyone, foundation, foundation board. Not three Geni,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-04 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Could you please tell how long you have been around Wikimedia projects? I would like to have an idea of how much time it takes to find out that we have at least three hierarchical structures. You left out at least Santa Claus. Totally dismayed, Virgilio A. P. Machado At 14:50 04-12-2010,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-04 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:11 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: ... Has anyone become Bureaucrat without being an admin? Doesn't De having something like that German Wikipedia? Their crats are all admins. German Wikipedia have a rule that a checkuser, oversighter, and arbcom are all distinct

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-27 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/27/2010 7:05:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, russnel...@gmail.com writes: Nothing in their experience base can be used unless it's already in print somewhere ... so how is their experience useful? I'm not calling into question the [[citation needed]] policy, but instead

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/25/2010 9:14:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, wing.phil...@gmx.de writes: I think it is very important for us to understand the difficulties academics face if they want to join the Wikimedian community. And maybe we should rethink about our strategy and approach on

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
. A. --- On Thu, 25/11/10, wjhon...@aol.com wjhon...@aol.com wrote: From: wjhon...@aol.com wjhon...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me... To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thursday, 25 November, 2010, 17:56 In a message

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/25/2010 10:57:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, jayen...@yahoo.com writes: It's a headache for the copyright team on en:WP because they have to figure out which came first. First there should be a presumption that established editors (I've been in-project for seven

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-25 Thread geni
On 25 November 2010 22:15, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: We have Geni, many ways to determine if someone is an established editor. Name one that doesn't boil down to editcountitis We have flags already to mark people as established editors in addition to that. I for one have no wish to turn

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/25/2010 3:31:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: On 25 November 2010 22:15, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: We have Geni, many ways to determine if someone is an established editor. Name one that doesn't boil down to editcountitis We have flags

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-25 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Dear Mr. Will Johnson, Three hurrays for the separations of powers, checks and balances and full accountability to oneself, others and the foundations of a civilized community. You got my attention and my empathy. Virgilio A. P. Machado At 19:43 25-11-2010, you wrote: In a message dated

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-25 Thread Marc Riddell
In a message dated 11/25/2010 3:31:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: On 25 November 2010 22:15, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: We have Geni, many ways to determine if someone is an established editor. Name one that doesn't boil down to editcountitis We have flags

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-11-25 Thread Russell Nelson
Okay, but that's just to control the power of the monopoly federal government, which is STRICTLY limited in what it can do (unfortunately, most Americans have forgotten that part). To control the power of the states (which is where nearly everything SHOULD be done), there is nothing that a state