Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-12 Thread Przykuta
Hello, This whole thread is interesting. You can work side by side with someone for several years and not know that the Wikipedia next door delete talk pages where the question is resolved. Yeah. We are forks. Anyway, I published an essay about raising quality on the Swedish Wikipedia a

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-11 Thread Przykuta
The Russian Wikipedia has copied your Mistakes report script but we often transfer the reports to the discussion pages for correction of wikipedians looking after their articles. Victoria In pl wiki reports are moved too, but only if problem is not solved on the Zgłoś błąd site.

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Przykuta, 11/10/2010 08:37: BTW - I've seen, that in some (smaller) Wikipedias newbies are welcome by bots. We try welcome only users with any activity and newbies are welcome by [[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation]] page with links to help pages. [[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation]] is almost useless,

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-11 Thread Przykuta
Przykuta, 11/10/2010 08:37: BTW - I've seen, that in some (smaller) Wikipedias newbies are welcome by bots. We try welcome only users with any activity and newbies are welcome by [[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation]] page with links to help pages. [[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation]] is almost

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Przykuta, 11/10/2010 09:27: Huh. Yes, but when bot welcome newbie, he can't help this user. Bots usually add a random signature from a list of experienced users willing to help. Nemo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-11 Thread Lennart Guldbrandsson
Hello, This whole thread is interesting. You can work side by side with someone for several years and not know that the Wikipedia next door delete talk pages where the question is resolved. Anyway, I published an essay about raising quality on the Swedish Wikipedia a couple of years ago, which

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-10 Thread Виктория
*Dzień dobry, *Przykuta One of Wikipedia perennial dilemmas is quantity vs. quality. Low depth and low articles to non-auricles ratio usually a sign that too many articles were created semiautomatically, by bots and the community is spread too thin e.g. there is not enough people to correct and

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-10 Thread Andrew Gray
2010/10/10 Виктория mstisla...@gmail.com: *Dzień dobry, *Przykuta One of Wikipedia perennial dilemmas is quantity vs. quality. Low depth and low articles to non-auricles ratio usually a sign that too many articles were created semiautomatically, by bots and the community is spread too thin

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-10 Thread Przykuta
So perhaps it's something about the way the Polish Wikipedia works? A few thoughts: * Polish doesn't host any images - unlike most other projects - so there's no need for image pages, image talkpages, etc. On some projects, such as German, as many as 6% of pages are in the image

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-10 Thread Przykuta
Old talk pages with solved problems are deleted. This is extremely strange. Talk pages are part of the article history. Ortega's thesis should be updated, perhaps. «The combination of a very active cohort of bots, together with the very low ratio of talk pages, indicates that the Polish

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-10 Thread Michael Peel
Czesc all, On 10 Oct 2010, at 06:54, Przykuta wrote: Hi In pl wiki depth is very weak. We have many edits, like other bigger Wikipedias, but Ratio is problematical (Non-Articles/Articles). We have not a lot of non-article pages. Could you help us? Any ideas?

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-10 Thread Przykuta
Does pl.wp have WikiProjects? If not, then perhaps this could explain the reduced number of non-article edits, given how many pages on en.wp only have wikiproject templates on their talk pages (or cases where having a non-redlink has promoted discussions). Thanks, Mike Peel Sure,

Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-10 Thread Виктория
I am not sure that deleting disccusion pages as a default is a good thing. If the discussion page exists some people will check it out of curosity and stay on the site longer, may be add their comments. Red scares many users, they don't know how to create a new page. Of course I don't like this

[Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?

2010-10-09 Thread Przykuta
Hi In pl wiki depth is very weak. We have many edits, like other bigger Wikipedias, but Ratio is problematical (Non-Articles/Articles). We have not a lot of non-article pages. Could you help us? Any ideas? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Non-Articles/Articles