Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-17 Thread stevertigo
Dennis During wrote: > Notice how easy it is to have vacuous "discussions" in the > absence of facts about user behavior. Query - to what "facts about user behavior" are you referring? -Stevertigo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-16 Thread Dennis During
Notice how easy it is to have vacuous "discussions" in the absence of facts about user behavior. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM, stevertigo wrote: > Greg wrote: > > There are many indirect effects as well— Less search engine > > hits means less readers means less editing means less content > an

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-16 Thread stevertigo
Greg wrote: > There are many indirect effects as well— Less search engine > hits means less readers means less editing means less content > and probably > less neutral content. Ha! In reality, one could just as well argue that less hits and less edits might mean a *perfect article will remain pe

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Aryeh Gregor wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Serita >> wrote: >> >>> Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia >>> entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments? >>> >> So what?  Wikipedia's

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-14 Thread Ray Saintonge
Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Serita wrote: > >> Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia >> entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments? >> > So what? Wikipedia's goal isn't to get high search rankings. It's to > be a u

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Serita wrote: > Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia > entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments? So what? Wikipedia's goal isn't to get high search rankings. It's to be a useful resource within its domain. If a

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread Chad
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Serita wrote: > Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia > entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments? > http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39484015,00.htm > Thank, Serita > ___NOTICE_

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread Angela
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Serita wrote: >> Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia >> entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments? >> http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,394

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread geni
2009/8/13 Cox, Serita : > Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia > entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments? > http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39484015,00.htm > Thank, Serita There is evidence that Google has pushed wikipedia down in

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:09 PM, David Goodman wrote: > Perhaps we should try using the titles for things that other people > use--not for g-rank, but as signs that we recognize that an > encyclopedia is made for the readers. Eh— It's unsolvable in some cases... People frequently use multiple term

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread David Goodman
Perhaps we should try using the titles for things that other people use--not for g-rank, but as signs that we recognize that an encyclopedia is made for the readers. David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread Brion Vibber
On 8/13/09 12:23 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > (I went on, on IRC, to point some examples of the behavioural change > that happened towards the end of 2007 (per my cruddy memory) where > non-widely-linked redirects basically fell out of the google index... > search terms like "Jesus bug" or many oth

Re: [Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Serita wrote: > Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia > entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments? > http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39484015,00.htm [from my comments in #wikimedia-tech the other

[Foundation-l] Question to post...

2009-08-13 Thread Cox, Serita
Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments? http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39484015,00.htm Thank, Serita ___NOTICE This electronic mail transmission, inc