Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Joan Goma wrote: > > > The idea is that if they believe (or their marketing studies say) there is > a market for an encyclopedia reviewed by professionals I think that this is > not incompatible with free license. > > If it were published under a free license this

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-15 Thread Joan Goma
> From: Keegan Peterzell > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop > printing books > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Mar 1

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > > I don't think that copying articles is the way to go. If the two projects > have separate articles on the same subjects that's still a very good thing. > They can still maintain their "professional" standards, whatever that > means. The re

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/14/12 2:29 PM, Joan Goma wrote: Catalan Wikipedia has about 10 times more pageviews than them. If they use a free license and use a wiki then their professionals can copy our best articles and review them and we can copy their content. 7,8% of their page-views go there from Catalan Wikiped

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Joan Goma
>From: Thomas Dalton > > On 14 March 2012 09:40, Joan Goma wrote: > > Unfortunatelly they still not realize that if published using a free > > licence compatible with Wikipedeia their income would be even 15 times > > larger. > > Would it? Can you explain how that business model would work? Ther

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 March 2012 12:50, Michael Peel wrote: > On 14 Mar 2012, at 12:21, Russavia wrote: >> Interesting news indeed. >> Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed >> encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? > Something like this: > http://www.labnol

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 14 March 2012 09:40, Joan Goma wrote: > Unfortunatelly they still not realize that if published using a free > licence compatible with Wikipedeia their income would be even 15 times > larger. Would it? Can you explain how that business model would work? There are ways of making money by produc

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Michael Peel
On 14 Mar 2012, at 12:21, Russavia wrote: > Interesting news indeed. > > Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed > encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Something like this: http://www.labnol.org/internet/wikipedia-printed-book/9136/ ? (And

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 14/03/12 13:17, Milos Rancic wrote: There is ~20 volumes Serbian Encyclopedia in progress, likely to be finished around 2050. I have no idea what would be the purpose of that Milos, please. It will likely be finished around 2025. paper encyclopedia at that time, but I know that it is getti

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Russavia
Interesting news indeed. Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Russavia On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > 2010's 32-volume set will be its last.  (Now I want to get one, to > rep

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:00, Samuel Klein wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: >>> >> No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still >> being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I >> am confusing things.

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Samuel Klein, 14/03/2012 03:00: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I am confusing things. There's also World Book in E

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Chris Keating
> I think what you might be remembering is that they used to sell them via a > sales force who went door to door. They announced a few years back that > they were stopping that. > > And, indeed, it was the reliance on the sales force that killed off Britannica in the late-80s/early-90s when Encarta

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/13/12 3:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:54:48 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it is I'm remembering? No, I think there were only like three b

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Joan Goma
> From: Samuel Klein > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > Cc: Wikipedia list , English >Wikipedia > Subject: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop > printingbooks > Message-ID: > > > Content-Typ

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Neil Babbage
Foundation Mailing List ReplyTo: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books Sent: 13 Mar 2012 22:58 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:54:48 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I rem

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Tim Starling
On 14/03/12 11:22, phoebe ayers wrote: > I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from > a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to > include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print > encyclopedias as a kid? Was a love of print encyclopedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: >> > No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still > being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I > am confusing things. There's also World Book in English, the biggest seller of

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/3/14 Samuel Klein : > "Today our digital database is much larger than what we can fit in the > print set. And yet the article "Gesenius, Heinrich Friedrich Wilhlem" has 745 words in the 1911 print edition and 175 in the current online edition. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרו

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:54:48 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an > announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it > is I'm remembering? > No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still being pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it is I'm remembering? On 13 March 2012 22:49, Samuel Klein wrote: > 2010's 32-volume set will be its last.  (Now I want to get one, to > replace my old set!)  Future ver

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
2010's 32-volume set will be its last. (Now I want to get one, to replace my old set!) Future versions will be digital only. http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/after-244-years-encyclopaedia-britannica-stops-the-presses/?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012