Sage Ross wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas Mituzasmidom.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Gerard,
Remember, the Signpost is an en.wp publication. It is not really the
place
to announce such things.
it is up for Signpost editors if they want to include it or not. Not
your
Hoi,
The one reason why I read the Signpost is because it posts a table of
contents on a blog that is aggregated. grin Advertisement works, it gets
it more readers /grin
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/9/8 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net
Sage Ross wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas
2009/9/7 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:42 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
That would describe the person who started this thread, who has stated
elsewhere that anything whatsoever he does on any WMF site is only for
the purpose of trolling.
Was that the
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:06 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
Too many people attribute to malice what is completely explained by
fuckups. WMF actually does better than most charities of comparable
staffing and funding ...
Yes, that's the way I view it too.
Most of these attacking
2009/9/7 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com:
I wonder what motivates this kind of thread. Do those who regularly
seek to pick out any inconsistency or failure to communicate
actually /like/ Wikipedia, or do they have some grudge against the
whole enterprise?
That would describe the person who
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:42 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
That would describe the person who started this thread, who has stated
elsewhere that anything whatsoever he does on any WMF site is only for
the purpose of trolling.
Was that the form of words used?
I'd be interested to
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Domas Mituzasmidom.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Gerard,
Remember, the Signpost is an en.wp publication. It is not really the
place
to announce such things.
it is up for Signpost editors if they want to include it or not. Not
your business :)
BR,
I guess I
The move itself will be
newsworthy and I'm sure there will be a press release about it, but it
hasn't happened yet.
As Wikimedia (or.. Wikipedia!) office address isn't publicly announced
or published, the press release would be fantastic:
Wikipedia is moving from undisclosed location office
: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?
2009/9/6 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/9/6 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com:
The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the
move would have eliminated the opportunity for trolling.
Why
Gerard,
Remember, the Signpost is an en.wp publication. It is not really the
place
to announce such things.
it is up for Signpost editors if they want to include it or not. Not
your business :)
BR,
Domas
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Hoi,
It is not my business what they care to write about ... what I ment is that
it is not a publication that is read by all our projects. At that Wikizine
would be a better choice. :)
Thanks.
GerardM
2009/9/6 Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com
Gerard,
Remember, the Signpost is an
Hoi,
As there is no signpost in Dutch, it may be one reason why I did not
notice that there are links to other publications. I checked out the one in
German and it is not a translation of the en.wp Signpost. Consequently the
assertion that there are 19 versions is suspect and my point stands.
2009/9/6 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Hoi,
As there is no signpost in Dutch, it may be one reason why I did not
notice that there are links to other publications. I checked out the one in
German and it is not a translation of the en.wp Signpost. Consequently the
assertion that
2009/9/6 geni geni...@gmail.com:
If you want to get seriously formal there are signpost or signpost
like publications in 19 languages on wikipedia which means that
informing them is likely to result in significantly wider information
distribution among the wikimedia than wikizine.
Wikizine
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
I just have to say that I think it is utter and complete nonsense for anyone
to ever accuse the Wikimedia Foundation in any serious way of being the kind
of organization that tries to hush things up.
Too many people attribute to malice what is completely
The move itself will be
newsworthy and I'm sure there will be a press release about it, but it
hasn't happened yet.
As Wikimedia (or.. Wikipedia!) office address isn't publicly announced
or published, the press release would be fantastic:
Wikipedia is moving from undisclosed location
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
I just have to say that I think it is utter and complete nonsense for
anyone
to ever accuse the Wikimedia Foundation in any serious way of being the
kind
of organization that tries
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Too many people attribute to malice what is completely explained by
fuckups.
Perhaps you should rethink this analysis. You might be attributing
accusations of the latter for
Ok, not replying to anyone in particular, but please, can we stop this
thread? If it has ever been useful, it has lost that little bit by now I
guess. Thank you.
-- eia
2009/9/6 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, David Gerard
seeking to sub-lease office space?
2009/9/6 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Hoi,
It is not my business what they care to write about ... what I ment is that
it is not a publication that is read by all our projects. At that Wikizine
would be a better choice. :)
Thanks.
GerardM
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
So, not having known that 3,000 square feet was the sum total of the
current WMF space on Stillman, my original but unpublished hunch was
correct.
Given how spectacularly incorrect your published accusations were
that's a pretty pathetic defense. Are
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
Geni wrote:
++
Given how spectacularly incorrect your published accusations were
that's a pretty pathetic defense. Are you going to apologise?
--
geni
++
I reported that the Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to sub-let space that
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
I reported that the Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to sub-let space that it
itself is renting. I have an e-mail from the property management firm
confirming the Wikimedia sublease. Erik Moeller has confirmed that the
Foundation is seeking to
Geni wrote:
++
Given how spectacularly incorrect your published accusations were
that's a pretty pathetic defense. Are you going to apologise?
--
geni
++
I reported that the Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to sub-let space that it
itself is renting. I have an e-mail from the
Gregory Kohs wrote:
Consider me a Leslie Stahl, circa 1972.
We should stop feeding the troll, especially this particular species of
novice self-made spy.
Yann
--
http://www.non-violence.org/ | Site collaboratif sur la non-violence
http://www.forget-me.net/ | Alternatives sur le Net
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
Which accusations do you speak of?
That's curious, considering they had outgrown space in January 2009,
such
that they needed to shuttle Ruth and Frank Stanton's money
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
WMF is swimming in surplus floor space?
Well, yeah, that's been confirmed actually. They have 11000 sq ft, plus
3000 sq ft, plus whatever they have at Wikia, and they only need the 11000
sq ft. Maybe they haven't moved in on the
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Gregory Kohsthekoh...@gmail.com wrote:
When the Watergate story broke, it was felt to be a largely contained
story. Leslie Stahl once commented, **CBS sent me. It was a measure of how
unimportant CBS thought the story was in the beginning. As more
information
2009/9/5 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
Which accusations do you speak of?
That's curious, considering they had outgrown space in January 2009,
such
that they needed to
: Saturday, September 5, 2009 7:54:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?
2009/9/5 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
Which accusations do you speak
Wikimedians.
From: geni geni...@gmail.com
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 6:50:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?
2009/9/5 Gregory Kohs thekoh
2009/9/5 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com:
Its a serious charge that is difficult to prove. The publicly released
financial statements are too general in nature to be useful. The only way to
prove/disprove this allegation and head off others is for the Foundation to
become more
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Geoffrey Plourdegeo.p...@yahoo.com wrote:
The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the move
would have eliminated the opportunity for trolling.
They haven't moved yet. I bet we can safely let this topic drop, though.
Nathan
2009/9/6 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com:
The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the move
would have eliminated the opportunity for trolling.
Why would the press be interested in the WMF putting the offices they
are about to move out of on the market? The move
2009/9/6 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/9/6 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com:
The plan may have been mentioned ages ago, but a press release about the
move would have eliminated the opportunity for trolling.
Why would the press be interested in the WMF putting the offices
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
A plan to move isn't worthy of a press release -
it would only cover a single sentence (The WMF has more staff than it
has room for desks, so it is planning to move to new, larger
offices.).
Is that all they have, a
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
A plan to move isn't worthy of a press release -
it would only cover a single sentence (The WMF has more staff than it
has room for desks, so it is planning to move to new, larger
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
A plan to move isn't worthy of a press release -
it would only cover a single sentence (The WMF
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 4:43:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?
2009/9/6 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/9/6 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com:
The plan may have been
It would appear that the Wikimedia Foundation is actively seeking to sub-let
some of its office space?
http://akahele.org/2009/09/wikimedia-foundation-subletting-space/
That's curious, considering they had outgrown space in January 2009, such
that they needed to shuttle Ruth and Frank Stanton's
Hoi,
What would be more obvious then looking for other premises when the current
ones are no longer sufficient.. Gee.. hiring new premises .. with sufficient
elbow room for some time ??
I wonder.. Gee Gregory, you already mentioned that ... are they really
looking for something new ? Then again, I
Gerard Hoi Meijssen writes:
++
What would be more obvious then looking for other premises when the current
ones are no longer sufficient.. Gee.. hiring new premises .. with sufficient
elbow room for some time ??
I wonder.. Gee Gregory, you already mentioned that ... are they really
Perhaps you could direct me to the WP article that explains why should they
handicap themselves in any negotiations by making a public commitment to a
future action. Maybe the landlord has pledged not to peek at this list? Or
maybe the cunning folks at WMF have so many sock-puppet floating
2009/9/4 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
It would appear that the Wikimedia Foundation is actively seeking to sub-let
some of its office space?
http://akahele.org/2009/09/wikimedia-foundation-subletting-space/
That's curious, considering they had outgrown space in January 2009, such
that
2009/9/4 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2)The amount described is pretty much consistent with the WMF's entire
office there which means if it was the WMF subletting it is more
consistent with a general move.
Yes, as noted in our 09-10 plan, we are relocating to a new space, as
a consequence of which
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2009/9/4 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2)The amount described is pretty much consistent with the WMF's entire
office there which means if it was the WMF subletting it is more
consistent with a general move.
Yes, as noted in
2009/9/4 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org:
Yes, as noted in our 09-10 plan, we are relocating to a new space, as
a consequence of which the current satellite office will be re-merged
into the new HQ. We're hoping to sublet the Stillman space, once we've
covered up the entrance to our secret
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2009/9/4 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2)The amount described is pretty much consistent with the WMF's entire
office there which means if it was the WMF
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:10 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/4 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org:
Yes, as noted in our 09-10 plan, we are relocating to a new space, as
a consequence of which the current satellite office will be re-merged
into the new HQ. We're hoping to sublet
By the way, the rest of your quotes were misquotes, as I followed up my
other Huhs with a comment.
But in this case, I felt it was more courteous to ask Erik to clarify his
comment rather than for me to try to guess what he meant by it.
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Anthonywikim...@inbox.org wrote:
By the way, the rest of your quotes were misquotes, as I followed up my
other Huhs with a comment.
But in this case, I felt it was more courteous to ask Erik to clarify his
comment rather than for me to try to guess what he meant
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, as noted in our 09-10 plan, we are relocating to a new space, as
a consequence of which the current satellite office will be re-merged
into the new HQ. We're hoping to sublet the Stillman space...
This part was serious
Anthony wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, as noted in our 09-10 plan, we are relocating to a new space, as
a consequence of which the current satellite office will be re-merged
into the new HQ. We're hoping to sublet the Stillman space...
This
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Another possible explanation for what's happening at the WMF HQ is
that the whole operation is preparing to move to new digs, and rather
than break their lease, they're seeking to find a subtenant to avoid
some financial penalty for early exit. I
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Chad's analysis was correct. The SF staff have been looking for a new
office for some time, and last I heard they were in the process of
negotiating a lease on a prospective space. Subletting the old office
will be
On 9/4/09 3:27 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Chad's analysis was correct. The SF staff have been looking for a new
office for some time, and last I heard they were in the process of
negotiating a lease on a prospective space.
On 9/4/09, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
I think so too, but I'd rather hear it from Erik than hear your guess or
guess at it myself.
I'd rather go through a thread without seeing a one-word message
indicating bewilderment at what was quite obviouisly a joke... but
then, the world revolves
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/4/09, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
I think so too, but I'd rather hear it from Erik than hear your guess or
guess at it myself.
I'd rather go through a thread without seeing a one-word message
indicating
So, not having known that 3,000 square feet was the sum total of the
current WMF space on Stillman, my original but unpublished hunch was
correct. I'll quote an e-mail I wrote Sept. 3rd, at 4:39 PM:
...If I had to formulate a theory, I'd say [Sue Gardner] thinks that
she's hired enough
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com wrote:
A little bird suggested I ask if the Foundation will be filing a Form
990-T once it finds a tenant, as it would be a business activity over
$1,000 unrelated to a non-profit mission and would thus possibly
trigger IRS
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