Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-18 Thread Joan Goma
2010 02:40:06 -0700 From: Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 849f98ed1001160140h20c69f6fxa5a7a22d4b81e...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-18 Thread Marcus Buck
Joan Goma hett schreven: There are 3 phenomena acting simultaneously against the number of visits to small projects: The bilingual effect, the size effect, and the Google effect. For Catalan case we estimate a penalization factor of 8.3 (that means that visits are 8.3 times less that what they

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-18 Thread William Pietri
On 01/18/2010 09:29 AM, Joan Goma wrote: There are 3 phenomena acting simultaneously against the number of visits to small projects: The bilingual effect, the size effect, and the Google effect. For Catalan case we estimate a penalization factor of 8.3 (that means that visits are 8.3 times

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-18 Thread Joan Goma
Details on how to measure it are relatively complex. We can make a guess because of data collected from sources available for Catalan. My mail was just to explain the phenomena. Figures results from: a) Surveys. Last one answered by 400 Catalan Wikipedia readers. We use results from answer to

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-17 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Saturday 16 January 2010 12:25:58 Nikola Smolenski написа: Дана Saturday 16 January 2010 10:40:06 Mark Williamson написа: It is not surprising to me that the English Wikipedia is so popular compared to any other in Kenya, but it is quite a bit more surprising that Korean, Romanian,

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-16 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Erik, Maybe there is a dirty Polish word looked up by many Polish pupils, and when they Google it they come to eu.WP because a Basque word accidentally is alike? :-) I am looking now for the interest in the native / the English Wikipedia in specific countries. It might be important how

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Williamson
Sociolinguistic situations around the world are very complex I think. In especially former European colonies, of which Kenya is but one example, the language of the former colonial power often has a unique position in society. It is not surprising to me that the English Wikipedia is so popular

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-16 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Saturday 16 January 2010 10:40:06 Mark Williamson написа: It is not surprising to me that the English Wikipedia is so popular compared to any other in Kenya, but it is quite a bit more surprising that Korean, Romanian, Bulgarian, Lithuanian, Iranian, etc. users prefer the English

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-16 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Erik Zachte erikzac...@infodisiac.com wrote: Q: Nikola Smolenski / Milos Rancic At Wikipedia Page Views By Country - Breakdown [1] and Wikipedia Page Views By Country - Trends [2] could you include more languages (ideally all languages)? Some of the numbers

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-16 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Friday 15 January 2010 23:39:38 Erik Zachte написа: R: Nikola Smolenski It is obvious why Slovene Wikipedia is highly visited in Sierra Leone, and Serbian in Suriname; URLs do matter :) Although, I don't understand why so much. I would expect this distribution by visitors, perhaps, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-16 Thread Ronald Beelaard
I read all kind of confusions about funny correlations between language versions and countries where visitors are coming from. As I (privately) communicated with Erik, the following flaws are in the current analysis: * The country code AU is often used (by apnic in this case) as a placeholder

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-16 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Friday 15 January 2010 23:39:38 Erik Zachte написа: Here is a much more extended version of the breakdown report [1] (for this discussion only) It shows per country up to 50 Wikipedia's An extra column shows the total number of records for this country/language (for the 6 month period)

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-15 Thread Petr Kadlec
2010/1/15 Erik Zachte erikzac...@infodisiac.com: Very interesting observation! So people from Sierra Leone try 'sl.wikipedia.org'. Why people from Surinam go to 'sr.wikimedia.org' is only slightly less obvious to me, but apparently is happens Well, Suriname’s TLD is .sr, so it is quite

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from? QA

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Williamson
I notice in that list both Belarusian Wikipedias are listed just as Belarusian Wikipedia. It would be very informative to know which is which and to have visitor statistics on both :-) skype: node.ue On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Erik Zachte erikzac...@infodisiac.comwrote: Here is a QA on