Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-20 Thread Mariano Cecowski
...@gmail.com escribió: De: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com Asunto: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse Para: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Fecha: jueves, 17 de junio de 2010, 8:39 On 17 June 2010 11:37, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-17 Thread Peter Gervai
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 17:25, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote many things. My sidenote is that if you believe in what you say then you imply Wikipedia, Wikimedia and everything we have with 'wiki' string in it, and every method we use which described as 'wiki-way of web publishing'

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 June 2010 11:37, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 17:25, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote many things. My sidenote is that if you believe in what you say then you imply Wikipedia, Wikimedia and everything we have with 'wiki' string in it, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-17 Thread Nathan
Wow, this thread just needs to end. Nathan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-17 Thread Marc Riddell
on 6/17/10 9:47 AM, Nathan at nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, this thread just needs to end. Nathan Interesting, Nathan. Needs to end for whom? Would you say the same thing if this were a live in-person discussion? Marc Riddell ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-16 Thread Ray Saintonge
Thomas Dalton wrote: On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Tardises are antiquated visual whatchamacallits, but not even remotely trademarks. Now you are just embarrassing yourself. Check your facts: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/2352743.stm You

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 16 June 2010 08:52, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Thomas Dalton wrote: On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Tardises are antiquated visual whatchamacallits, but not even remotely trademarks. Now you are just embarrassing yourself. Check your facts:

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-16 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Thomas Dalton wrote: On 16 June 2010 08:52, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Thomas Dalton wrote: On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Tardises are antiquated visual whatchamacallits, but not even remotely trademarks. Now you are just

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-15 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Thomas Dalton wrote: On 15 June 2010 00:20, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: You are claiming the law is complicated. But the facts are plain and simple, and no amount of FUDD is going to support a view

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Thomas Dalton wrote: On 13 June 2010 23:33, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: If there is any party with dibs on Wiki, that would be Ward Cunningham, not the WMF. Trademark law does not include an automatic right to dibs on a mark to the first person to use it. (At

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread David Gerard
On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: You are claiming the law is complicated. But the facts are plain and simple, and no amount of FUDD is going to support a view that there is any reasonable justification (by moral or juridifical standards) to claim WMF is

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: I happen to know there is an English phrase Doctor, heal thyself. You probably ANAL. But that doesn't stop you from FUDDing. I'm an anal non-lawyer, at that! I may be spreading uncertainty and doubt and something that is

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 15 June 2010 00:20, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: You are claiming the law is complicated. But the facts are plain and simple, and no amount of FUDD is going to support a view that there is any reasonable

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Thomas Dalton wrote: On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: I happen to know there is an English phrase Doctor, heal thyself. You probably ANAL. But that doesn't stop you from FUDDing. I'm an anal non-lawyer, at that! I may be spreading

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread David Gerard
On 15 June 2010 00:25, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not suggesting we should claim a trademark on the word wiki (it wouldn't stand up). I'm suggesting that wiki when used as the name of an encyclopaedia is sufficiently similar to Wikipedia to cause confusion in the market

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Jiří Hofman hofm...@aldebaran.cz wrote: One of the Czech online news services, Aktuálně.cz ( http://aktualne.cz ) has launched its own encyclopedia a few weeks ago. Links to the encyclopedia's articles are used in news articles on this server. That would not be anything strange if the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: Jiří Hofman hofm...@aldebaran.cz wrote: You are aware of [[en:Wiki]] for a history of wikis and WMF's part in it? Tim In other words, the use of wiki predates wikipedia (wikipedia gets its name since it was a

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 June 2010 23:33, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Dalton wrote: Dog isn't strongly associated in the public psyche with a particular brand. Wiki is. Like I say, these are complicated issues of legal interpretation and really should be left to the lawyers. If

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-12 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/6/12 Jiří Hofman hofm...@aldebaran.cz: The community is not unanimous. Therefore I would like to ask an international Wikipedia community for its opinion. Is it a violation of the Wikimedia Foundation rights? The opinion of the community (local or international) is largely irrelevant.