Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-10-01 Thread Liam Wyatt
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The image is in the public domain. That's the point. Public means all public, not limited to the whims of what the boundary of a certain country might

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/30 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk: David Gerard wrote: But getting back to the case in question - we're talking about the sort of museum that's actually a government sub-department. Thus, public domain images that the taxpayer has *already paid for*. I see nothing whatsoever

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread Teofilo
I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings and sculptures when the painters and sculptors died more than 70 years ago. In

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread Teofilo
That was not the right link. Good link : http://web.archive.org/web/20050208203749/http://www.museeguimet.fr/pages/page_id18315_u1l2.htm 2009/9/30, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com: (1) http://web.archive.org/web/20050305062057/www.museeguimet.fr/homes/home_id20392_u1l2.htm

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com wrote: I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings and

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread Ray Saintonge
Marco Chiesa wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Teofilo wrote: I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: -Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 5:31 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wjhonson
-Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:58 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc... wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
Teofilo wrote: I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings and sculptures when the painters and sculptors died more

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wjhonson
-Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:17 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc... wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: -Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:17 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wjhonson
I think everyone is probably a bit tired of this topic so this will be my last response. You keep positing that someone is espousing that the museums have to actively participate in providing copies of something to someone.? Has somebody claimed that?? If they did, it wasn't me.? I have never

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-29 Thread David Goodman
But they have not changed the license to the pictures. What they have only done is changed the rights to part of the documentation: the basic info needed to say what it is is CC-BY-SA, which is very good, the long explanation and provenance information is NC, which is acceptable. I fail to see how

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-29 Thread wiki-lists
David Gerard wrote: 2009/9/28 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk: From the earlier poster Teofilo: I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full resolution pictures of Public Domain works. That seems to be a demand to have the highest resolution copies possible. That sets it

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/28 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk:  From the earlier poster Teofilo:    I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full    resolution pictures of Public Domain works. That seems to be a demand to have the highest resolution copies possible. That sets it out as a goal, not a

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-28 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Gerard wrote: 2009/9/28 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk: From the earlier poster Teofilo: I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full resolution pictures of Public Domain works. That seems to be a demand to have the highest resolution copies possible. That

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-28 Thread Liam Wyatt
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: 2009/9/28 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk: From the earlier poster Teofilo: I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full resolution pictures of Public Domain works.

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-27 Thread WJhonson
I thought that the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision basically was that a reproduction like this enjoys no new copyright ? W.J. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-27 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: I thought that the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision basically was that a reproduction like this enjoys no new copyright ? I have a reproduction of Rembrandt's Toby and Anna whilst that doesn't give the producer of the reproduction the right to stop me making

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-27 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/27/2009 1:29:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk writes: I have a reproduction of Rembrandt's Toby and Anna whilst that doesn't give the producer of the reproduction the right to stop me making copies from it, it also

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-27 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 9/27/2009 5:51:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk writes: I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full resolution pictures of Public Domain works. That seems to be a demand to have the highest resolution copies possible. I was