Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

2011-10-31 Thread Fae
I find the idea that one might discount the views of editors by claiming that we are ignoring the views of readers a bit bizarre when discussing a feature that by definition is used by editors. Consequently any consensus or statistics on feedback from editors that may have actually used such tools

[Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

2011-10-30 Thread WereSpielChequers
-- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:05:37 +0100 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID:

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

2011-10-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You are missing the point completely as far as I am concerned. The community was involved in defining our strategy. Making our community more friendly is a strategic choice defined by the strategy project and endorsed by the board. I doubt very much that one of our many communities has the

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

2011-10-30 Thread WereSpielChequers
Re OKeyes Switching authorisation and prioritisation over to the editors completely ignores readers, and assumes that editors will act outside their own/interests to ensure that reader-specific features do get some traction; I'm not convinced that the community would want to ignore readers, I'm

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

2011-10-30 Thread Oliver Keyes
I'm not saying that they would *ignore* readers, just that consistently taking outside parties into account is something every group finds difficult. I can see the community noting, in such discussions, that readers have a stake. I can even see them taking this stake into account when making

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

2011-10-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I totally agree that Commons needs tagging and that such tagging will do much more to help people find the illustrations they are looking for then the current category and whatever system. WereSpielCheckers we agree on this. Now let us concentrate on things where we can win. When Commons has