Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-18 Thread Lodewijk
Maybe I should rephrase that into a way to redirect nicely to... because with the current layout I would not be very tempted to use it since it suggests one made an error. (maybe with good reason, but still) Lodewijk 2011/5/17 Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:24 AM,

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Waldir Pimenta, 11/05/2011 02:15: On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it? I can only guess that the tech-oriented people don't seem to fancy

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-17 Thread Lodewijk
Although you do have a point here, just to be complete, the number of characters for en.wikipedia.org is of course longer. You would have to compare en.wp.w.org/Example with en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example - which makes it 12 vs 22 (+article name), which is already more significant. Of course unless

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-17 Thread Casey Brown
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Of course unless someone finds a way to redirect en.wikipedia.org/Example to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example . Did you mean to type http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example? You will be automatically redirected there in

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-17 Thread MZMcBride
Casey Brown wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Of course unless someone finds a way to redirect en.wikipedia.org/Example to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example . Did you mean to type http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example? You will be automatically

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-12 Thread Waldir Pimenta
Nice ideas. For reference, here are the current usage options of enwp.org: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tl-lomas/enwp.org And here are a few ideas to extend that (in transparent ways): http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/137551#137551 Waldir On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:22 PM,

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-11 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: It seems that giving w.net/com/org to the WMF would be in line with his vision of no corporation controlling a letter. +1

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-11 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: It seems that giving w.net/com/org to the

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-11 Thread HW
Just a reminder, zhwp.org is also a shout url for Chinese Wikipedia which maintance by PhiLiP.   HW   On 2011/5/11 (三) 2:02:34 PM On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-11 Thread Neil Harris
On 11/05/11 11:32, HW wrote: I think the advantage is that it would allow us to generalize the concept behind enwp.org, which is that we want short urls for all languages and all projects. I'm thinking along the lines of http://en.wp.w.org . From that angle I would say that short urls of this

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-11 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 05/11/2011 12:32 PM, HW wrote: I think the advantage is that it would allow us to generalize the concept behind enwp.org, which is that we want short urls for all languages and all projects. I'm thinking along the lines of http://en.wp.w.org . From that Since I see this popping up

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-11 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: It seems that giving w.net/com/org to the WMF would be in line with his vision of no corporation controlling a letter. Last I checked, WMF was a corporation. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-11 Thread Nihiltres
(Please pardon my not quoting earlier emails) I think a URL shortener is a great idea if we can make it work right. We do need, however, to sort out our issues, e.g. the following list: *Choice of domain name(s) (or a TLD) **Acquisition of domain name(s) **Registration of TLD (if applicable)

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Waldir Pimenta
wi.ki, on the other hand, would be safe in this regard :) By the way, since no one at WMF offered to send the email requesting a donation/price reduction of the wi.ki domain, I'll do it as the president of Wikimedia Portugal, with my @wikimedia.pt email. Hopefully that'll give me some leverage --

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
A while back, I think the WMF got offered the enwp.org domain for free, which is a fairly oft used shortener. Does anyone remember what ever happened to that offer? On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Waldir Pimenta wal...@email.com wrote: wi.ki, on the other hand, would be safe in this regard :)

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: A while back, I think the WMF got offered the enwp.org domain for free, which is a fairly oft used shortener. Does anyone remember what ever happened to that offer? Casey has referred that to Rob Halsell. --

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Waldir Pimenta
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.comwrote: Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it? I can only guess that the tech-oriented people don't seem to fancy the idea much.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Waldir Pimenta
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Waldir Pimenta wal...@email.com wrote: On the other hand, as I said, there are likely more than the 9 .org TLDs I mentioned, so there probably is (if not, should be?) an automated system of reminders or something to that effect. This system could easily be

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Aaron Adrignola
-- Forwarded message -- From: Waldir Pimenta wal...@email.com So, on one hand I can understand the resistance towards adding even more domains to that mix: the enwp.org would set a precedence for others in the same vein, and this would mean up to 7 (projects) * ~200

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: A while back, I think the WMF got offered the enwp.org domain for free, which is a fairly oft used shortener. Does anyone remember what ever happened to that offer? This is the thread we're discussing, which

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Liam Wyatt
With regards to the wi.ki domain, I asked people at the WMF back in 2009 about whether they were interested in buying it given that the owner at the time had a notice on the site saying he was willing to sell. The response came back that they were concerned it could be problematic since neither

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: A while back, I think the WMF got offered the enwp.org domain for free, which is a fairly oft used shortener. Does anyone remember what ever happened to that offer? I love this service, btw. Thanks for the

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: With regards to the wi.ki domain, I asked people at the WMF back in 2009 about whether they were interested in buying it given that the owner at the time had a notice on the site saying he was willing to sell. The response

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: With regards to the wi.ki domain, I asked people at the WMF back in 2009 about whether they were interested in buying it given that the

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: With regards to the wi.ki domain, I asked people at the WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: It seems that giving w.net/com/org to the WMF would be in line with his vision of no corporation controlling a letter. +1 for the idealism, but I'd like to add the concept is quite silly if you consider the bulk

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread John Vandenberg
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: ... enwp.org / Title dewt.org / Title wikimediacommons.org / Title http://en.ws/ , http://de.ws/, etc would be lovely. == 1 domain ? (directory) wi.ki / p / en / Title (Wikipedia EN) wi.ki / t / de / Title (Wiktionary

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:58 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: http://commons.org/ would be nice. have we tried approaching them? -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Casey Brown
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:58 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: http://commons.org/ would be nice.  have we tried approaching them? -- John Vandenberg Who, exactly, is in charge of domain registration at

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Huib Laurens
But we are still going offtopic. I guess we should take the offer for enwp.org how to go forward is later business right? Huib 2011/5/9 Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:58 AM, John

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread aude
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: But we are still going offtopic. I guess we should take the offer for enwp.org how to go forward is later business right? Yes, we should. It's useful and already fairly widely used. -Katie Huib 2011/5/9 Casey

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Casey Brown
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/5/9 Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org: I believe it's Rob Halsell.  I forwarded Thomas's original e-mail to him yesterday to see if he could do anything to help; we'll see what he says. :-) But we are still going

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Platonides
Just create your own tld ;) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Actually, what we should be doing is asking Afilias for one of the reserved 1-letter domains: w.org. Twitter has t.co, so why not? Ryan Kaldari On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Just create your own tld ;) ___

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Brian J Mingus
+1 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Actually, what we should be doing is asking Afilias for one of the reserved 1-letter domains: w.org. Twitter has t.co, so why not? Ryan Kaldari On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Neil Harris
On 09/05/11 23:57, Platonides wrote: Just create your own tld ;) Sadly, .wp wouldn't pass the new gTLD process: new gTLDs must have at least three characters. -- Neil ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: On 09/05/11 23:57, Platonides wrote: Just create your own tld ;) Sadly, .wp wouldn't pass the new gTLD process: new gTLDs must have at least three characters. -- Neil How about: http://en.wp.wmf -- Brian

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: On 09/05/11 23:57, Platonides wrote: Just create your own tld ;) Sadly, .wp wouldn't pass the new gTLD process: new gTLDs must have

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Neil Harris
On 10/05/11 00:46, Kirill Lokshin wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brian J Mingusbrian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Neil Harrisn...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: On 09/05/11 23:57, Platonides wrote: Just create your own tld ;) Sadly, .wp wouldn't pass the

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: On 10/05/11 00:46, Kirill Lokshin wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brian J Mingusbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Neil Harrisn...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: On 09/05/11

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.ukwrote: On 10/05/11 00:46, Kirill Lokshin wrote: On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: On Mon, May 9,

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-08 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it? On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com wrote: I looked into this once...the domain price was quite steep or I would have gotten it. However, a

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The wp.org is probably for sale ... It makes more sense to acquire that domain. Thanks, GerardM On 8 May 2011 15:18, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-08 Thread Krinkle
Although we maybe only doing this for Wikipedia, here's a few comparisons / ideas == Projects * domains: (subdomain) en.wp.org / Title de.wt.org / Title (de.wiktionary) c.wm.org / Title (commons.wikimedia) (directory) wp.org / en / Title wt.org / de / Title (de.wiktionary) wm.org / c / Title

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-08 Thread David Levy
Martijn Hoekstra wrote: Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it? Gerard Meijssen replied: The wp.org is probably for sale ... It makes more sense to acquire that domain. Why is this an either-or

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-08 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote: Martijn Hoekstra wrote: Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it? Gerard Meijssen replied: The wp.org is probably for sale ...

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-01 Thread Waldir Pimenta
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier. So to en.wiki would be en.wp.org, de.wiki de.wp.org and etc. For the record (sorry I'm late btw :P), I had independently contacted the owners of

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-01 Thread Mono mium
I looked into this once...the domain price was quite steep or I would have gotten it. However, a donation might be possible. On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Waldir Pimenta wal...@email.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: I preffer wp.org (if is

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-02-17 Thread Lucien leGrey
+1 Thanks, Thomas :) 2011/2/16 Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier. So to en.wiki would be en.wp.org, de.wiki de.wp.org and etc. That would be a good

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-02-17 Thread Frederic Schutz
On 16/02/11 23:06, Moka Pantages wrote: If WMF want enwp.org I will gladly hand it over. Thank you for running this service! I use it all the time for including wikipedia links in Twitter. It would be nice if it was officially supported by WMF or you were given resources necessary to

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-02-16 Thread Moka Pantages
Original Message Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Do WMF want enwp.org? Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:58:37 -0500 From: aude aude.w...@gmail.com aude.w...@gmail.com Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.orgfoundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-02-16 Thread Béria Lima
I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier. So to en.wiki would be en.wp.org, de.wiki de.wp.org and etc. _ *Béria Lima (Beh) * 2011/2/16 Moka Pantages mpanta...@wikimedia.org Original Message Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Do WMF want

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-02-16 Thread Casey Brown
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier. So to en.wiki would be en.wp.org, de.wiki de.wp.org and etc. That would be a good thing to have, yes. However, what already exists and, what is owned by