at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no
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Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 20:38:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and
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This is a wikipedian from
,
Portugal
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and
systems
The domain is not mine, nor does it belong to Wikimedia Norway, it is
another wikipedian from Norway who owns the domain. Wikimedia Norway has
been in contact with him about the domain and the future
...@jeb.no wrote:
From: John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 20:38:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and
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Peter Gervai schrieb:
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote:
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
would be
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/;
That is 96 chars,
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Harald
Krichelharald.kric...@googlemail.com wrote:
Peter Gervai schrieb:
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote:
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
would be
Over at Wikinews, we've just started using a new url shortening
service-enwn.net for our twitter feed. You'll need to talk to
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:ShakataGaNai if interested.
On 17/07/2009 14:06, Chad wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Harald
2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com:
Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains.
I know of:
http://enwp.org/
http://enwn.net/
- d.
2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com:
Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains.
eg.:
http://wp.cx/3tT5u7Z
redirects to
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:14 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com:
Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Andrew Grayandrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com:
Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
wikimedia shortened urls only lead to
I control enwn.net. We just set it up primarily for our Twitter feed. That
being said, I've already had requests to make it available for external
users - so that's in progress, and I can expand it to allow all WMF sites
(not just wn).
Otherwise it does support short redirects for CurID.
On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote:
Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org?
That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :)
-Chad
(Asked whois.pir.org:43 about enwp.org)
Domain ID: D148943548-LROR
Domain Name: ENWP.ORG
Created On: 23-Aug-2007 14: 33: 18 UTC
Last
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe
Beaudettepbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote:
Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org?
That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :)
-Chad
(Asked whois.pir.org:43 about enwp.org)
Domain ID:
This is a wikipedian from Norway.
John Erling Blad
Wikimedia Norway
Chad wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe
Beaudettepbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote:
Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org?
That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 21:45, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote:
There is a solution, and it is rather puzzling. The license talks about
identification by an URI, and this can be defined several ways. We can
simply define an URI like Wikipedia:My article or perhaps cc:nn
Not very much
2009/7/4 Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 21:45, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote:
There is a solution, and it is rather puzzling. The license talks about
identification by an URI, and this can be defined several ways. We can
simply define an URI like Wikipedia:My
Hoi,
Did you consider what this does in other scripts ... the notion that it is a
small number of characters is based on the notion that the script will be
the Latin script.. Other scripts tend to show as the Unicode numbers..
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/7/3 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu
On
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote:
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
would be
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/;
That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes
A url for a medium without a clickable link is, well, not an optimum
solution. Obfuscated url isn't really any better, but it might be shorter.
John
Peter Gervai wrote:
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote:
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia
I know it is even worse for some other languages, but I don't think it
is very interesting to calculate exact numbers for a couple of hundred
languages. The most typical worse case for a SMS is 70 two byte chars.
John
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Did you consider what this does in other scripts
There is a solution, and it is rather puzzling. The license talks about
identification by an URI, and this can be defined several ways. We can
simply define an URI like Wikipedia:My article or perhaps cc:nn
where the last is some kind of digital resource identifier for works
licensed by
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
would be
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/;
That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes available in a SMS. For some
languages the attribution will take more than
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote:
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
would be
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/;
That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote:
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
would be
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
I actually was not aware that the terms now ask you to link not only to the
article, but to the license as well. That is a burden.
Linking to the license (or providing it's actual text) is an explicit
requirement of CC-BY-SA.
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