On 16/11/2009, at 1:04 AM, private musings wrote:
Hi all,
On Wikipedia Review, 'tarantino' pointed out that on WMF projects,
self-identified minors (in this case User:Juliancolton) are involved
in
routine maintenance stuff around sexually explicit images reasonably
describable as porn
Even though I do agree to some extent with you, Andrew, I would like
to make a remark.
You correctly state that the cultural sensibilities differ over the
world on this topic. However, this does not excuse for calling the
sensibilities irrational and lacking in substance (inconsistent is
fair
The New York City public library system--and I would imagine most municipal
library systems in general--is filled with underage interns (or pages, or
whatever they're called now) who play a not insignificant role in curating
collections that contain material every bit as explicit as those examples
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Dennis During dcdur...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm guessing that the habit has been broken. It will probably come back.
I think you're right, particularly given that foundation-l was closed for
nearly a week. Participants have been posting to other lists, or keeping
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
Half a day? Is that really so bad? I would be worried if there were no posts
for a week. Obviously there isn't as much traffic as before but I would
personally wait longer before sending out e-mails asking why there are
Here is a good example of what can happen when we set free those children
who have gained the trust of their parents to use the internet within
whatever
limits those parents (or, indeed, the minor) believe is appropriate:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com wrote:
That said, I would hope that no one is scared of posting here, and if you
are, I hope you'll contact either myself or Austin and tell us why.
The difference between fear and respect is what? Whether or not
you agree
2009/11/17 Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com
That said, I would hope that no one is scared of posting here, and if you
are, I hope you'll contact either myself or Austin and tell us why.
I hope so too, but I would understand why they wouldn't say so. People might
be nervous, scared or simply
Hi everyone,
It's that time again. Strategic Planning office hours are today,
November 18, from 20:00-21:00 UTC, which is: 12-1pm PST, 3pm-4pm EST.
We meet in #wikimedia-strategy on the freenode network. You can
access the chat by going to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and filling
in a username
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
It's that time again. Strategic Planning office hours are today,
November 18, from 20:00-21:00 UTC, which is: 12-1pm PST, 3pm-4pm EST.
Um, today's the 17th.
It is absolutely not the job of the Wikimedia Foundation, nor the
Wikimedia community, to supervise a child's internet access and/or
usage
Frankly, I dont think that is what I read in PMs post which started this
discussion.
In many countries it is the responsibility of parents for their childs
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 05:16:23PM +, Bod Notbod wrote:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
It's that time again. Strategic Planning office hours are today,
November 18, from 20:00-21:00 UTC, which is: 12-1pm PST, 3pm-4pm EST.
2009/11/17 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:04 AM, David Moran fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com
wrote:
It is correspondingly true that there are many people who would more
comfortably use, or let their children use, regular brick and mortar
libraries if they could be sure that
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
It's that time again. Strategic Planning office hours are today,
November 18, from 20:00-21:00 UTC, which is: 12-1pm PST, 3pm-4pm EST.
Um, today's the 17th.
Maybe they're going on US time?
By my
If anybody wants censored encyclopedia there is a very easy way how to obtain
it:
1) Take a copy of Wikipedia's database.
2) Use it at your own Mediawiki server.
3) Censor whatever you want.
4) Never ever bother others with your hobbies.
This solution of your problem is completely legal and
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:
It's that time again. Strategic Planning office hours are today,
November 18, from 20:00-21:00 UTC, which is: 12-1pm PST, 3pm-4pm EST.
Um, today's the 17th.
Sorry about the typo, everyone. Office hours was indeed today.
One point that the apologists seem to be missing is that the Wikimedia
Foundation assumes and expects that sometimes minors have administrator
rights on the Wikimedia projects. This then gives them the responsibility
of deciding what is suitable content or not for the project. Likewise, the
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Hello all!
Next Thursday's office hours will feature Véronique Kessler, the
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Andrew Garrett wrote:
On 16/11/2009, at 1:04 AM, private musings wrote:
On Wikipedia Review, 'tarantino' pointed out that on WMF projects,
self-identified minors (in this case User:Juliancolton) are involved
in
routine maintenance stuff around sexually explicit images reasonably
Ray,
you seem to me to be essentially discussing the 'users' perspective on
wikipedia - whilst it's my view that the foundation, and the projects could
(and should) do more to allow things like descriptive image filtering for
users (I think it would drive participation in places like schools, and
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
As is often stated WMF is an ISP, and not a publisher.
Stating it often doesn't make it true. The WMF is quite clearly a
publisher. It even has admitted as much when it exercised the GFDL
clause purporting to allow any
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