Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not appealing to the PR benefits here, or to the way this action would promote the climate change cause in general. I'm just saying that as an organisation composed of rational, moral people, Wikimedia has as much

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Tim Starling
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not appealing to the PR benefits here, or to the way this action would promote the climate change cause in general. I'm just saying that as an organisation composed of rational, moral people,

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com wrote: How about moving the servers (5) from Florida to a cold country (Alaska, Canada, Finland, Russia) so that they can be used to heat offices or homes ? It might not be unrealistic as one may read such things as the solution

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not appealing to the PR benefits here, or to the way this action would promote the climate change cause in

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Alexandr Romanov
I personally support any initiative that would reduce energy consumption. I wonder though (in the pure sense of the term, i.e. I have no idea) if the biggest consumption of energy for the Wikimedia Foundation isn't actually travel. Cars consume huge amounts of fossil fuels, and don't get me

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread William Pietri
On 12/14/2009 05:50 AM, Tim Starling wrote: In terms of the ethics, there's a big difference between inaction on an issue, say poverty in Africa, and taking direct action in order to make things worse. Wikimedia is not paying people to take food from children's mouths, but it is paying people

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I strongly encourage those who are interested in this to create a proposal for strategic planning consideration... Http://strategy.Wikimedia.org . The strategic planning initiative is thinking about the wmf's next five years... This type of conversation is very welcome there.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: While the major program spending that Wikimedia performs should be defined by its mission, I think small spending decisions, relating to day-to-day operations, can be made without recourse to our mission. For

[Foundation-l] Strategic Planning Office Hours

2009-12-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
The next strategic planning office hours are Tuesday from 20:00-21:00 UTC (12-1PM PST, 3-4PM EST). Office hours are on #wikimedia-strategy on freenode. You can access the chat by going to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and filling in a username and the channel name (#wikimedia-strategy).

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Secret Santa!

2009-12-14 Thread phoebe ayers
Hello Wikimedians, Austin and I thought it might be fun to have a Secret Santa New Year's drawing among Wikimedia friends! We're basing it on the MetaFilter community Secret Santa drawing, which has 256 participants and uses a website called Elfster. Totally optional of course, but totally fun

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Secret Santa!

2009-12-14 Thread Ray Saintonge
phoebe ayers wrote: Austin and I thought it might be fun to have a Secret Santa New Year's drawing among Wikimedia friends! We're basing it on the MetaFilter community Secret Santa drawing, which has 256 participants and uses a website called Elfster. ... * buy, make or find a gift -- price

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Tim Starling
Aryeh Gregor wrote: In contrast, by emitting carbon dioxide, you're contributing to an effect that won't be a big deal for at least a few more decades. It's a big deal already, and by the time it becomes an even bigger deal, it will be too late to act. The global climate takes decades to

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Secret Santa … and Env ironment

2009-12-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Wikimedians, Austin and I thought it might be fun to have a Secret Santa New Year's drawing among Wikimedia friends! We're basing it on the MetaFilter community Secret Santa drawing, which has 256 participants

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Secret Santa … and En vironment

2009-12-14 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Wikimedians, Austin and I thought it might be fun to have a Secret Santa New Year's drawing among Wikimedia friends! We're basing it on

[Foundation-l] My new blog and foundation-l

2009-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
As people may (or may not) have noticed, I haven't posted to this list (or any other Wikimedia mailing list except the UK one) since the list was taken off moderation a month ago. For my observations and thoughts during that month and my suggestions for the future, please see the first post on my

[Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-14 Thread geni
I see we have taken to advertising craigslist. Would anyone care to explain why? -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-14 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
Geni's referring to a fundraiser sitenotice with a picture of Craig Newmark, and the text Craig of Craigslist urges you to support Wikipedia. Why? On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: care to give some context to your question? [[witty lama]]

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
Geni is speaking of the huge banner on Enwp at the moment featuring Craig of craigslist. Hit reload a few times if you haven't seen it. It links to a clearly spoken statement of support for wikipedia. To avoid you haivng to click and goofing up the counters, here is what it says: I'm a proud

Re: [Foundation-l] My new blog and foundation-l

2009-12-14 Thread Steven Walling
Have you added your new blog to Open Wiki Blog Planet and the Wikimedia aggregator? Steven On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: As people may (or may not) have noticed, I haven't posted to this list (or any other Wikimedia mailing list except the UK

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-14 Thread Robert Rohde
The banner can be seen at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/viewtemplate=2009_Craig_Appeal1 -Robert Rohde On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: care to give some context to your question? [[witty lama]] wittylama.com/blog

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-14 Thread Mark Williamson
It's certainly free publicity for Craigslist, one way or the other. Anybody who does not know what Craigslist is now will see it every time they see the banner, may google it or look it up on WP to find out what it is, and start using it. Any time we put the name of any kind of person or