Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread Ting Chen
This statement is such a lie that I cannot let it stay here unresponded. You imply the board seat of Matt Halprin. Matt had long left Omidyar, if his board seat was bought, we had had to chose someone else from that Foundation to replace him. As we had explained before many times, Matt is on

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011-06-22 Thread Aaron Adrignola
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: For comparison, I understand that Wikibooks are considered somewhat owned by the person starting the book. As an admin on Wikibooks I'd beg to differ. I'll point out this page which sums up the project's opinion:

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/21/2011 04:35 PM, Lodewijk wrote: Lets try to approach this from another angle. Perhaps simple Wikipedia should not be considered as a different language, but rather as a different project - a simplified Wikipedia. Because the purpose of simple wikipedia's can be debated of course, but

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread MZMcBride
Ting Chen wrote: Am 21.06.2011 18:15, schrieb MZMcBride: Thomas Morton wrote: As a follow up to the discussion about Bitcoins (during the board elections) accepting them as donations... I thought this article by the EFF explaining why they no longer accept BC sets out some interesting

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 22 June 2011 17:25, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Ting Chen wrote: Am 21.06.2011 18:15, schrieb MZMcBride: Thomas Morton wrote: As a follow up to the discussion about Bitcoins (during the board elections)  accepting them as donations... I thought this article by the EFF

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread MZMcBride
Michael Snow wrote: I thought it was reasonably understandable, even without perfect grammar, that Ting was saying that since Matt is no longer at Omidyar, if your insinuation were true, when he left the foundation would have needed to bring in someone new from Omidyar to fill their board

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread Michael Snow
On 6/22/2011 10:14 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Michael Snow wrote: I thought it was reasonably understandable, even without perfect grammar, that Ting was saying that since Matt is no longer at Omidyar, if your insinuation were true, when he left the foundation would have needed to bring in someone

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi, Just to feed the troll: 1) Just because you don't remember doesn't mean your interpretation is true. Its not true, I was there (and haven't forgotten) and it isn't true. Please feel free to continue doubting me, but: 2) Honestly I don't see the relation to the EFF BItcoins discussion, so:

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread George Herbert
I would like to personally thank the WMF staff and board for having pursued this. Good luck. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus (friends of the court) brief in Golan v. Holder, a

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Geoff, great work you are doing here. Greetings Ting On 22.06.2011 20:40, wrote Geoff Brigham: Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus (friends of the court) brief in Golan v. Holder, a case of great importance before the Supreme Court that will affect our

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Kat Walsh
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus (friends of the court) brief in Golan v. Holder, a case of great importance before the Supreme Court that will affect our understanding of the public

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 June 2011 20:15, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to personally thank the WMF staff and board for having pursued this. Seconded. This is something important enough we need to stand up about it. Is there anything we can do, in practical terms, to support this?

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Luiz Augusto
I'm very pleased with this amicus brief, specially because it joins both an organization that I spent my free time getting fun (Wikimedia) and a organization that represents my professional categorie (American Association of Libraries, despite the fact that I'm not a US citizen). Congratulations

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Lodewijk
Thank you for sharing! This potentially has a big impact indeed, and the support of the WMF seems more than appropriate. Is this something the WMF will do more often in the future (or has done in the past) or is this an extreme exception due to its importance? With kind regards, Lodewijk

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-22 Thread Lodewijk
2011/6/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com There are at least three serious issues in creation of such projects, if they are not defined strictly linguistically: * Scope. Which age do we cover, approximately? Any valid theory would be useful, but it should be defined. According to Piaget, less

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 22:24, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: 2011/6/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com There are at least three serious issues in creation of such projects, if they are not defined strictly linguistically: * Scope. Which age do we cover, approximately? Any valid

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Jim Redmond
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 15:00, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anything we can do, in practical terms, to support this? IANAL, but I think the most practical support any of us could do would be donations to the EFF (who'll actually argue the case for our side) or sympathetic

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 June 2011 21:14, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Is this something the WMF will do more often in the future (or has done in the past) or is this an extreme exception due to its importance? I was talkiing to someone today, describing WMF as an 800lb gorilla that tries very

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Mike Godwin
Kat Walsh writes: I'm really happy to see us start getting involved in this kind of work; I think it too is part of fulfilling our mission. Thanks for your work on this, Geoff. Chiming in here -- I'm very happy to see Geoff's announcement too. As Geoff and a few others here know, I've favored

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread Alec Conroy
On Bitcoin-- we (and the web in general) desperately need a zero-overhead micropayment system of some kind. I can't help but think our fundraising efforts would be helped if people would able to, on impulse and without premeditation, donate $1 to WMF in thanks for particular articles and have

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Alec Conroy
I'm so overjoyed to see we've taken this step! Good work Board, Staff, Counsel, and everyone else!!! It always seemed our obvious destiny to lend a helping hand to important issues like this, I'm really really happy that this day has arrived. Is there anything we can do, in practical terms, to

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread Sue Gardner
On 22 June 2011 18:24, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to think any time we can be seen standing next to the the Librarians, we come off looking good.  The most we can associate those two-- ALA, WMF; ALA, WMF;  The more we do that, the more outsiders will get us as a

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread geni
On 22 June 2011 19:40, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Wikimedia Foundation joined the EFF brief in light of the tremendously important role that the public domain plays in our mission to collect and develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-22 Thread geni
On 23 June 2011 03:09, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm particularly pleased about that part too, Alec, for exactly the reason you give. They're our natural allies, and having that be publicly visible helps people understand us better :-) I imagine that having non-US GLAMs

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-22 Thread Tim Starling
On 23/06/11 10:18, Alec Conroy wrote: On Bitcoin-- we (and the web in general) desperately need a zero-overhead micropayment system of some kind. I can't help but think our fundraising efforts would be helped if people would able to, on impulse and without premeditation, donate $1 to WMF