Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't think there is any value to having a WMF appointee on your

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are controlled by Brazilians. At the same

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Kropotkine_113
Le jeudi 01 septembre 2011 à 16:37 +0100, Jimmy Wales a écrit : I had never thought of this before, but now that it has been mentioned, I just wanted to disagree, quite respectfully because Ray is awesome of course, and say that I think it is a very interesting idea to have a WMF appointee

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi, sorry for top posting. A quick historical note, really early on some chapters had a WMF representative with a lot of power. We moved from that next to a lawyer recommandation as it created legal links between WMF and chapters hence increasing the legal risks for all the organizations and

[Foundation-l] This Month in GLAM - August 2011

2011-09-02 Thread Sarah Stierch
The August 2011 issue of This Month in GLAM has been published. This issue features news and happenings from: - *USA*: The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Smithsonian Institution, National Archives and Records Administration, outreach events, collaborative article successes,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Florence Devouard
On 9/1/11 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't think there is any

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Florence Devouard
On 9/1/11 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't think there is any

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Theo10011
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are controlled by Brazilians. At the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 September 2011 20:11, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com wrote: I can not help commenting a bit more on the matter of conflict of interest. I think I can probably say more on the matter than most people here. If I could +1 this message I would. Our bylaws were changed a few years

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Michael Snow
On 9/2/2011 12:11 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: On 9/1/11 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are controlled by Brazilians.

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Florence Devouard
On 9/2/11 10:02 PM, Michael Snow wrote: On 9/2/2011 12:11 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: On 9/1/11 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Béria Lima
*If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical approach might be to designate observers who are not given authority but merely sit in with a chapter board. That's assuming that the chapter board level is one of the places where it makes the most sense to add a communication

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 02.09.2011 22:02, Michael Snow wrote: For those reading whose memories may not be quite long enough - I assume Florence is referring to Michael Davis here, not to me. The conflict of interest policy was adopted in 2006, before I was on the board. I just thought it would help to make the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Michael Snow
On 9/2/2011 1:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote: *If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical approach might be to designate observers who are not given authority but merely sit in with a chapter board. That's assuming that the chapter board level is one of the places where it makes

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: On 9/2/2011 1:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote: *If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical approach might be to designate observers who are not given authority but merely sit in with a chapter board.

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Béria Lima
And Jan-Bart and Kul knows about European and Asia laws? Jean-Bart and Kul can go to General Assemblies? Jean Bart speak the 12-15 languages spoken in European Chapters (i will not even mention how many languages Kul would need to know to be the Asia representant)? Jan-Bart and Kul would decide

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Béria Lima
Errata: When i say Kul, i mean Barry. Sorry. _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Craig Franklin
Message: 7 Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:43:35 +0200 From: Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4e613ff7.3080...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/02/11 1:59 PM, Michael Snow wrote: On 9/2/2011 1:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote: *If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical approach might be to designate observers who are not given authority but merely sit in with a chapter board. That's assuming that the chapter board

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/02/11 5:28 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: Just to add to what Illario has said, I think it's important to remember that most (if not all) chapters are run via a democratic system where the entire board or committee is elected by its members. Appointing WMF members to boards would obviously

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/02/11 1:02 PM, Michael Snow wrote: Meanwhile, on the subject of mutual board appointments between chapters and the foundation, I figured I'd chime in as I helped push the idea for chapters to select foundation board members in the first place. For one thing, there's a very different