Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-23 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Gerard Meijssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Many people who are deaf have not learned to read and write in their own language. [snip] It is true that many deaf people do not know how to write their own language. I think the shifting definition of 'own

Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-23 Thread Thomas Dalton
Here we must be using some other meaning since the overwhelming majority of deaf children are born to hearing parents who do not speak sign language. Really? Do you have some statistics to back that up? Deafness is very often inherited. It may be a majority, but I doubt it is overwhelming.

Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-23 Thread Pharos
Greg, this has nothing to do with cochlear implants. The deaf activist community is not a monolith, and the SignWriting folks are not advocates of isolationism at all. They simply believe in bilingualism, and that attaining literacy in one's everyday language is valuable in itself, and should

Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-23 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Pharos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, this has nothing to do with cochlear implants. The deaf activist community is not a monolith, and the SignWriting folks are not advocates of isolationism at all. Gah, I would not presume to insult them so. For clarity:

Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-23 Thread Marcus Buck
Gregory Maxwell hett schreven: Only that due care is required if we don't want to end up being a tool for isolationism and this is true for all cases where we create distinct Wikipedia communities and is not at all limited to speakers of sign language. If people like to be isolated, why

Re: [Foundation-l] Signal languages Wikimedia projects

2008-11-23 Thread Chad
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Gerard Meijssen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: When people claim that deaf people are able to read and write in the dominant language, they forget that this has never been a reason to deny people their Wikipedia in their language. We do allow people who speak a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Wikimedia Foundation's Audited Financial Statements on the Foundation Wiki

2008-11-23 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Ral315 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, while extensions are granted fairly liberally, is it normal practice to receive extensions on an annual basis? A three-month extension is requested approximately 37% of the time. An additional three-month extension is