Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 61, Issue 44

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/30 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: Should commons allow images which are biased? Can an image be biased out of context? Can text? I suppose not - the same principles apply to Wikisource as apply to Commons.

Re: [Foundation-l] upcoming board elections?

2009-04-30 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Phoebe, yes three seats will be open. Ting phoebe ayers wrote: Hi all, I know it's still a couple of months out, but I've lost track. Are we electing two people or three people to the Board this summer? Will all of the community seats be open? (it looks like the terms of Kat and Ting

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/30 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net: Anybody who wants to help the Wikimedia projects is invited to participate. I expect that the primary activity will involve working groups developing pieces of the strategy on-wiki. How will these working groups be organised? Having a specific

Re: [Foundation-l] upcoming board elections?

2009-04-30 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hi Phoebe and all, We are electing three people to the board this summer. The way things were designed the chapter seats (2) are appointed in every EVEN year, and the directly elected seats (3) will be elected every ODD year. Obviously we might have to make an exception this year because

Re: [Foundation-l] Strategic plan resolution

2009-04-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When 50% or our editors have English language skills it is certainly helpful but it is not necessarily a good thing. It means that we are failing in our efforts to get more editors who do not have English language skills. While all the other languages get 57% of the edits we still have no

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 61, Issue 44

2009-04-30 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/4/30 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Should commons allow images which are biased? Can an image be biased out of context?

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Domas Mituzas
Hi! Sorry for late answer - I visited the offline world (it had awesome mountains with snowcaps, sky-blue oceans and tulip fields ;-) So, the community is urged to do this work at the request of the Board, but the Board itself is going to do virtually nothing (other than this

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/30 Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com: In this case, as I mentioned above, nearly (over?) 100 community members were met overall - so if we'd include that, the mean travel distance would be way way lower - and the value of the meeting was extremely high. I believe there were about 50

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Domas Mituzas
Thomas, I believe there were about 50 chapters people about about 100 devs. I'm not sure why the mean travel distance would be lower if you include everyone - there were people from all around the world there, many having travelled further than the average board member. Actually, I'd be

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/30 Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com: Thomas, I believe there were about 50 chapters people about about 100 devs. I'm not sure why the mean travel distance would be lower if you include everyone - there were people from all around the world there, many having travelled further than

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of livingpeople

2009-04-30 Thread Sue Gardner
I agree that the turnout was impressive, and I was also impressed that many of the wealthier chapters helped to fund travel for the less-wealthy. I was also amazed by the volunteer devs, many of whom travelled long distances on their own dime (e.g., Aude, and many others). I've spoken with

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net wrote: This is a rather unusual endeavor, as it is intended to be the world's first completely open and collaborative strategy development project. We aim to draw upon the experiences and knowledge of a wide range of

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Sue Gardner
2009/4/30 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/4/30 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net: Anybody who wants to help the Wikimedia projects is invited to participate. I expect that the primary activity will involve working groups developing pieces of the strategy on-wiki. How will these

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.comwrote: Actually, I'd be happy if you were right (and you probably are!) - it shows, that lots of people had the motivation to come to this excursion. But yet you can't classify it as leisure?

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Michael Bimmler
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Alex mrzmanw...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.comwrote: Actually, I'd be happy if you were right (and you probably are!) - it shows, that lots of people had the motivation to come to this

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Alex
Anthony wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.comwrote: Actually, I'd be happy if you were right (and you probably are!) - it shows, that lots of people had the motivation to come to this excursion. But yet you can't classify it as leisure? It may not

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Samuel Klein
I would love more context for this (excellent, ambitious) discussion. What timescales are to be considered? What range of scope reassessment is appropriate? A long-range planning section would be helpful, if only to provide context for more immediate targets. For comparison, here is a brief

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Alex
Michael Bimmler wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Alex mrzmanw...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.comwrote: Actually, I'd be happy if you were right (and you probably are!) - it shows, that lots of people had the

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/30 Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org: Having said that, we need some structure to ensure the work happens. The trick will be trying to design a process that strikes a good balance between total openness, and driving towards decision-making. It's my responsibility to try to find that

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/30 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: I'd like to see Wikimedia as a community take some 300-year stances on knowledge dissemination, Did you mean 300 years? 3 years is hard enough in our line of work, 30 would be a real challenge, 300 is simply impossible. I'm assuming that was a typo...

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/30 Alex mrzmanw...@gmail.com: Anthony wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.comwrote: Actually, I'd be happy if you were right (and you probably are!) - it shows, that lots of people had the motivation to come to this excursion. But yet you can't

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/30 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: I'd like to see Wikimedia as a community take some 300-year stances on knowledge dissemination, Did you mean 300 years? Yes. Considering the stakes and our capacity for

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/5/1 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/30 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: I'd like to see Wikimedia as a community take some 300-year stances on knowledge dissemination, Did you mean 300 years? Yes.  

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-04-30 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Samuel Klein wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/30 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: I'd like to see Wikimedia as a community take some 300-year stances on knowledge dissemination, Did you mean 300 years? Yes.