Andrew Gray wrote:
> 2009/5/7 Samuel Klein :
>
>
>> Certainly not zero. Perhaps 10%? Neither textbooks nor wikipedia are
>> normally designed to give a total soup-to-nuts explanation of how to
>> do something.
>>
>
> Ha.
>
> [[Wikibooks:Constructing an Industrial Civilisation from Scratch
I'm with Murdoch on this one. Have you seen what's happening to television
at Hulu, and textbooks with the Kindle? Newspapers going behind a paywall is
only too obvious. The current business model of "give it away but put up
some display ads" is simply not sustainable. It only exists because a bett
Sounds easy. I wonder why this "study" doesn't mention a p value. The grant
must not have been large enough to fund someone with any experience using R,
or god forbid, a pencil.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Robert Rohde wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Brian wrote:
> > Quite frankly
I will have no part in your efforts to redefine the scientific method on its
talk page.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Sage Ross
> wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Brian wrote:
> > Quite frankly the advice that you should only use five subjects makes no
> > sense. The appeal to Niels
David Gerard wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/07/rupert-murdoch-charging-websites
>
> Time for Wikinews to get recruiting ...
>
>
>
Haha, Murdoch predicts the death of internet, newsreel at eleven.
Yours,
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
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The best discussion of the entire problem that I know is in Mc
Caffrey's All the Weyrs of Pern.
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Andrew Gray wrote:
> 2009/5/7 Samuel Klein :
>
>> Certainly not zero. Perhaps 10%? Neither
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Brian wrote:
> Quite frankly the advice that you should only use five subjects makes no
> sense. The appeal to Nielsen's authority is not going to work on me or
> anyone else who understands why the scientific method exists. It's
> unscientific thinking and it's go
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Brian wrote:
> Quite frankly the advice that you should only use five subjects makes no
> sense. The appeal to Nielsen's authority is not going to work on me or
> anyone else who understands why the scientific method exists. It's
> unscientific thinking and it's goi
Quite frankly the advice that you should only use five subjects makes no
sense. The appeal to Nielsen's authority is not going to work on me or
anyone else who understands why the scientific method exists. It's
unscientific thinking and it's going cause to you waste money. You're going
to draw conc
2009/5/7 Brian :
> This all goes back to how you aim to quantify improvement in usability.
> These samples sizes are so small that it will be hard (or even impossible)
> to evaluate your progress based on statistical significance. You've got to
> prove to us that its really getting better, and does
This all goes back to how you aim to quantify improvement in usability.
These samples sizes are so small that it will be hard (or even impossible)
to evaluate your progress based on statistical significance. You've got to
prove to us that its really getting better, and doesn't just look prettier.
2009/5/7 Brian :
>>
>> Based on these criteria, the 2,500 users that responded to our survey were
>> filtered down to 500 viable subjects based on their answers to these
>> questions. The team, along with B|P, partnered with Davis Recruiting to
>> contact, filter, and screen these 500 participants
That may be true. This study does not allow you to draw that conclusion,
however.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM, geni wrote:
> 2009/5/8 Brian :
> > This usability study is so tiny. I want MediaWiki to be really, really
> good.
> > Please tell me you guys hope to go large scale with the remote t
2009/5/8 Brian :
> You went from 2,500 subjects to just 10?
For a software test, which this mostly was, 5 is enough for excellent
results in most cases.
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2009/5/8 Brian :
> This usability study is so tiny. I want MediaWiki to be really, really good.
> Please tell me you guys hope to go large scale with the remote testing
> setup.
Nit just mediawiki. Looks like we need to improve the paths through
the help namespace.
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>
> Based on these criteria, the 2,500 users that responded to our survey were
> filtered down to 500 viable subjects based on their answers to these
> questions. The team, along with B|P, partnered with Davis Recruiting to
> contact, filter, and screen these 500 participants based on their Wikiped
This usability study is so tiny. I want MediaWiki to be really, really good.
Please tell me you guys hope to go large scale with the remote testing
setup.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Parul Vora wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> Thanks for all of the feedback, comments, and support. I just wanted to
> let
Hi All!
Thanks for all of the feedback, comments, and support. I just wanted to
let you know that our full report (including highlight videos!!) is now
up our the Usability Initiative's project wiki:
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/UX_and_Usability_Study
- The Usability Team
Parul Vora w
2009/5/7 Samuel Klein :
> Certainly not zero. Perhaps 10%? Neither textbooks nor wikipedia are
> normally designed to give a total soup-to-nuts explanation of how to
> do something.
Ha.
[[Wikibooks:Constructing an Industrial Civilisation from Scratch]].
==Chapter 1: on flint nodules==
(...)
2009/5/7 Samuel Klein :
> * Of course this could be boiled down to "part of a good comprehensive
> article on Wikipedia" in the same way that all wikiprojects could be
> merged into WP if one were so inclined...
No, no. All wikiprojects could be merged into *Wikibooks* if one were
so inclined. T
A howto comes closest. A bunch of howtos would sometimes be combined
into a cyclopedia. (see
http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Household_Cyclopedia_of_General_Information/howtomak_cge.html
-- I'd love to see more of this on wikisource for ready reference
throughout the projects.
ht
2009/5/7 Samuel Klein :
> I think that the "cheatsheet / overview / bootstrapping" version of
> information about a topic is quite valuable and useful, and that few
> people create such materials today [we don't have a good noun for that
> kind of work, for instance].
The rough guide? The Cliff'
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Aryeh Gregor
wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Platonides wrote:
>> You have a copy of wikipedia on your hard disk. You can access it.
>> But your computer lifetime is finite. And you also don't know for how
>> much time you'll still have electric current.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michael Bimmler wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote:
>> Tomasz,
>>
>>> To be able bring what captivates me on a daily basis back to the
>>> city I
>>> was born and grew up in makes happy as can be.
>>
>>
>> Heeheee, :-) And I hereby decla
Michael Bimmler wrote:
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote:
Tomasz,
To be able bring what captivates me on a daily basis back to the
city I
was born and grew up in makes happy as can be.
Heeheee, :-) And I hereby declare my Green Wikimania, I'll carpool to
get there!
...
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote:
> Tomasz,
>
>> To be able bring what captivates me on a daily basis back to the
>> city I
>> was born and grew up in makes happy as can be.
>
>
> Heeheee, :-) And I hereby declare my Green Wikimania, I'll carpool to
> get there!
>
...bycicle,
Tomasz,
> To be able bring what captivates me on a daily basis back to the
> city I
> was born and grew up in makes happy as can be.
Heeheee, :-) And I hereby declare my Green Wikimania, I'll carpool to
get there!
Cheers,
--
Domas Mituzas -- http://dammit.lt/ -- [[user:midom]]
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Tomasz Ganicz wrote:
> 2009/5/7 Dedalus :
>> Congratulations to the Poland team for winning the Wikimania 2010 bid!
>>
>
> Thank you :-) Actually we are all very happy but also shocked in
> Poland. Now, we feel great responsibility to organize Wikimania as
> well as we are able or even better :-)
> Thank you :-) Actually we are all very happy but also shocked in
> Poland. Now, we feel great responsibility to organize Wikimania as
> well as we are able or even better :-) I think all three biding team
> deserve congratulation as all of them did great job as well, and
> Wikimania could have b
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:39 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> (We largely solved this on wikien-l by requiring membership to post at
> all. This is less than ideal for absolute openness, but we floated the
> idea on the list to no objection and it's made maintenance *way*
> easier.)
>
Well, same here. E
Hoi,
There are two parts to this;
- You will never be able to prevent such things from happening. In this
instance the result was benign and the press is able to spell our name
correctly
- There are people REALLY eager to make sure that facts about subjects
they care about is exactl
Tomasz Ganicz escribió:
> 2009/5/7 Dedalus :
>> Congratulations to the Poland team for winning the Wikimania 2010 bid!
>>
>
> Thank you :-) Actually we are all very happy but also shocked in
> Poland. Now, we feel great responsibility to organize Wikimania as
> well as we are able or even better :
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Platonides wrote:
> In that futuristic approach I find it more likely that there will be no
> paper / printer, but instead everthing will be stored into
> computers/PDAs and transfered between them. So in the event of the
> catastrophe you'd be only able to access i
Here's a hoax that persisted for weeks and was picked up by MSM articles.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0506/1224245992919.html?via=mr
One question is how to catch / force-verify new facts. A totally
separate one is how to make corrections stick / how to improve the
rate of aw
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Tim Starling
> wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't go quite that far. The idea of doing it (or having done it)
> > makes people feel good, due to the collective sci-fi-like fantasy
> > implicitly promulgated by the proj
2009/5/7 Charlotte Webb :
> I think David Gerard said human postings generally do not score above
> 2.0 unless their vocabulary suggests a background in SEO, then it's
> higher.
I don't remember saying the second part, but yeah, most human-written
emails score below 2.0. However, enough score ab
I would announce you that until the 15th of May Wikimedia Italia is
collecting some nominations to select the winners of the Wikimedia
Italia Award 2009 which will take place the 23th May in Vicenza (near
Venice) in collaboration with local administrations and associations
during the "festival of d
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/07/rupert-murdoch-charging-websites
Time for Wikinews to get recruiting ...
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Congratulations! I know that I grilled you with many questions during the
bidding process, but that's because I thought your bid was very strong and
wanted to make sure you thought about various details. I was satisfied with
the answer regarding the venue space, especially the idea of having out
2009/5/7 Dedalus :
> Congratulations to the Poland team for winning the Wikimania 2010 bid!
Danzig!
/me runs away v. fast
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2009/5/7 Dedalus :
> Congratulations to the Poland team for winning the Wikimania 2010 bid!
>
Thank you :-) Actually we are all very happy but also shocked in
Poland. Now, we feel great responsibility to organize Wikimania as
well as we are able or even better :-) I think all three biding team
des
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Tim Starling wrote:
>
> I wouldn't go quite that far. The idea of doing it (or having done it)
> makes people feel good, due to the collective sci-fi-like fantasy
> implicitly promulgated by the project itself -- a future world of
> poverty and decay, saved by the
Congratulations to the Poland team for winning the Wikimania 2010 bid!
Dedalus
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