On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote:
You replace one vested group (people already regularly editing the host
wiki) with another (people who split off to found the new wiki). both run
the risk of 'groupthink' and founder effects.
The plan is not to replace one
Hoi,
I was at the Tropenmuseum the other day .. they said that this commercial
notion is old hat.. Sharing collections, engaging the public is what ensures
the future of museums. So I am hopeful that the Tropenmuseum is right and
will prove to be so. The thing is they do not need to be right
Hello everybody;
This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at :
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_?
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Hello Teofilo,
I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was
planning to do that myself a bit later).
I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as
well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings
starting from
http://uk.wikipedia.org
vs.
Wikipedias follow the ISO 639
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639language code standard, where
uk is the code for the Ukrainian language.
The chapter sites, however, use the ISO
3166http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166standard for country codes,
and ua is the code for the country of Ukraine.
Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was
planning to do that myself a bit later).
I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as
well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings
starting from
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Teofiloteofilow...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody;
This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at :
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_?
I've noticed that http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/
Hi Jon,
Thanks a lot for promt and informative (so valuable) input.
Regarding
Wikipedias follow the ISO 639 language code standard
and
The chapter sites, however, use the ISO 3166 standard for country codes,
all WPs and all chapters have to do that very strictly and same way,
aren't they
Cruccone, I can confirm what you've said about Brazilian Portuguese,
although I don't know that I'd characterise it as a lot.
Back in older times before there was much Breton content there, the
domain was squatted by people who would have liked to have a
separate WP for Brazilian Portuguese
Wikimedia Serbia and Serbian language projects have similar problem
with Suriname: The code for Serbian language is sr, while the code for
Serbia is rs. It is interesting that .sr code was one of the preferred
codes for some Serbian sites for a long time: it is free and for a
long time Serbia used
Yes same issue for Sinhala (of Sri Lanka) and the country code for
Slovenia - SI or Burmese and Malaysia - MY or Virgin Islands and
Vietnamese - VI.
I'm sure there are several other cases as well.
Mark
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Milos Rancicmill...@gmail.com wrote:
Wikimedia Serbia and
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I'm sure there are several other cases as well.
I'm quite sure that was the main reason to pick this issue up to this
mailing list.
It seems that it's high time to create some page on Meta to place
whole list there and to collect there precedents how such issue were
solved.
On Wed, Jul 22,
Hoi,
If you are going to solve this, then it is the cheapest not to wait.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/7/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
Wikimedia Serbia and Serbian language projects have similar problem
with Suriname: The code for Serbian language is sr, while the code for
Serbia is rs. It
Thanks for this reminder. I've been putting together a submission myself
and I'd urge others to do the same. If you're not sure where to begin,
michaelgeist.ca has some excellent discussion of where Canadian
copyright law should be headed.
In addition to individual submissions, what are the
2009/7/22 Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Teofiloteofilow...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody;
This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at :
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_?
Relevant to the NPG et al discussion:
Unless Otherwise Indicated: A Survey of Copyright Statements on
Digital Library Collections, by Melanie Schlosser. published in
College and Research Libraries, v.70(4), pp371-385 (July 2009).
Unfortunately it's not freely available online, but if you
VS
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Preprint:
http://www.ala.org/ala//mgrps/divs/acrl/publications/crljournal/preprints/Schlosser.pdf
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:55 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.comwrote:
Relevant to the NPG et al discussion:
Unless Otherwise Indicated: A Survey of Copyright Statements on
Digital Library
... At some point we will probably want to set
up our own server(s) and then the confusion will be eliminated.
I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting.
Anyhow is it possible to have some explicit estimation about when at
some point could happen?
It
might make sense to put a note
2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com:
... At some point we will probably want to set
up our own server(s) and then the confusion will be eliminated.
I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting.
I'm not sure how the WMF servers are set up, it might be possible to
direct our
I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting.
I'm not sure how the WMF servers are set up, it might be possible to
direct our domain directly at their servers... Worth looking into.
Please look into as move to own servers will not be in nearest weeks.
As to the best of my understanding:
Hi Pavlo,
I'm glad this issue has risen up here and I'm sure the United Kingdom and
Ukraine chapters can come up with something together that solves this rather
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2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com:
There should not be any real problem to link wikimedia.org.uk directly
to Wikimedia UK chapter wiki (wherever it's hosted).
It depends on how the WMF has everything set up. They have a
complicated setup for hosting multiple wikis, it may well be
- Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu wrote:
I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: This is the website
of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org
(disambiguation).
I've added a hatnote in the meantime redirecting users to UK-WP and WM-UA.
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Hi Pavlo,
I'm glad this issue has risen up here and I'm sure the United Kingdom and
Ukraine chapters can come up with something together that solves this to both
chapters satisfaction.
Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion rather than doing
this via an open mailing
Hi Andrew,
Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion rather than
doing this via an open mailing list.
Shure, we *have to* :) do so
No sense to bother everybody by details.
Pavlo Shevelo
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Andrew
Turveyandrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi
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Hi Andrew,
Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion
rather than doing this via an open mailing list.
Shure, we *have to* :) do so No sense to bother everybody by
details.
Pavlo Shevelo
How about a new
How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ?
What for?
(: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :)
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Cary Bassc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
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Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Could we take this offline and
Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ?
What for?
(: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :)
I meant for my post to be humours, but I failed to include my :-) !
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 21:05, wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
Peter Gervai wrote:
Usually I do not get it why people choose NC licenses all the time
while there's usually a low probability to actually _lose_ money by
making it public.
This may come as a shock to
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com:
There should not be any real problem to link wikimedia.org.uk directly
to Wikimedia UK chapter wiki (wherever it's hosted).
It depends on how the WMF has everything
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