Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread wp99 -----
Hi, the replies and discussion have been extremely informative and useful to me. Thank you all. I will carefully read your opinions again, and notify JaWp MailingList of these ideas. Thanks again, Best Regarads ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-

Re: [Foundation-l] Voluntary self-regulation of multimedia service providers

2009-08-06 Thread private musings
Well yeah Milos - but we probably won't - will we! - Seems a bit silly. I was hoping we could have a thread about the principle of discussing / evaluating some of the various voluntary codes of conduct out there - perhaps someone is aware of a US standard (is that what you're getting at, Geni - th

Re: [Foundation-l] Voluntary self-regulation of multimedia service providers

2009-08-06 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:21 AM, geni wrote: > 2009/8/7 private musings : >> Hi all, >> >> Just wondering what folk think about the WMF heading towards compliance with >> things like this; >> >> http://www.gsmeurope.org/documents/eu_codes/fsm_code_en.pdf >> >> This is a german code of conduct - but

Re: [Foundation-l] Voluntary self-regulation of multimedia service providers

2009-08-06 Thread geni
2009/8/7 private musings : > Hi all, > > Just wondering what folk think about the WMF heading towards compliance with > things like this; > > http://www.gsmeurope.org/documents/eu_codes/fsm_code_en.pdf > > This is a german code of conduct - but there are many more (I've also spoken > with these cha

Re: [Foundation-l] Voluntary self-regulation of multimedia service providers

2009-08-06 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:59 PM, private musings wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wondering what folk think about the WMF heading towards compliance > with > things like this; > > http://www.gsmeurope.org/documents/eu_codes/fsm_code_en.pdf > > This is a german code of conduct - but there are many more (I'

[Foundation-l] Knol, a year later

2009-08-06 Thread Milos Rancic
More than a year ago Google lunched Knol. It was a sensation then (BTW, it was a sensation for more time than Wolfram Alpha was). Today I just may say that I don't remember when I heard for the Knol last time. More than a year ago, I've wrote a blog post about Knol [1] (I didn't read it again, so

[Foundation-l] Voluntary self-regulation of multimedia service providers

2009-08-06 Thread private musings
Hi all, Just wondering what folk think about the WMF heading towards compliance with things like this; http://www.gsmeurope.org/documents/eu_codes/fsm_code_en.pdf This is a german code of conduct - but there are many more (I've also spoken with these chaps =- http://www.iia.net.au/ - and I got t

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Williamson
Alright, but what about the case of a Wiki where there are perhaps 3 active users, and the administrator is imposing their will? It is the Foundation that gave the admins the power in the first place. I do believe that _most_ issues people want the Foundation to get involved in are best dealt with

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Re: [Foundation-l] Is Apple censoring Wiktionary?

2009-08-06 Thread wiki-lists
geni wrote: > 2009/8/6 Luna : >> That'd make sense, I think. From the article linked, it sounds like giving >> the application in question might be approved with a "17+" rating. That's >> probably reasonable where the application and its designer are drawing from >> unrated content beyond their con

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Apple censoring Wiktionary?

2009-08-06 Thread geni
2009/8/6 Luna : > That'd make sense, I think. From the article linked, it sounds like giving > the application in question might be approved with a "17+" rating. That's > probably reasonable where the application and its designer are drawing from > unrated content beyond their control. I'm sure man

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Luna
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Peter Coombe wrote: > Yes, there's nothing wrong with saying "This policy from en.wp seems > sensible, maybe we should have something similar?" This is different from > slavish imitation. Indeed -- I think Gerard expressed a similar idea. All wikis can and should

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Mark Williamson wrote: > From: Mark Williamson > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - > WP:NOT > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:38 PM > This problem of one or two > strong-willed admins enf

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Apple censoring Wiktionary?

2009-08-06 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Luna wrote: > That'd make sense, I think. From the article linked, it sounds like giving > the application in question might be approved with a "17+" rating. That's > probably reasonable where the application and its designer are drawing from > unrated content beyon

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Apple censoring Wiktionary?

2009-08-06 Thread Luna
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > This sort of stuff has been circulating for several weeks, and my > understanding is that it's a general policy Apple's app store is > applying to all unfiltered internet content. That'd make sense, I think. From the article linked, it sound

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Apple censoring Wiktionary?

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Snow
Techman224 wrote: > http://www.macworld.com/article/142148/2009/08/ninjawords_schiller.html?lsrc=twt_macworld > > I found this news article on Macworld that Phil Schiller contacted the > developer of the Ninjawords dictionary app for the iPhone/iPod Touch. > He said that the application was blo

[Foundation-l] Is Apple censoring Wiktionary?

2009-08-06 Thread Techman224
http://www.macworld.com/article/142148/2009/08/ninjawords_schiller.html?lsrc=twt_macworld I found this news article on Macworld that Phil Schiller contacted the developer of the Ninjawords dictionary app for the iPhone/iPod Touch. He said that the application was blocked because the app pulled

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Williamson
This problem of one or two strong-willed admins enforcing their will over others is not an uncommon problem at smaller Wikis. In many cases, uncommon or strange orthographies, nonstandard dialects, or strange editing rules have been enforced; people who complain are often ignored and referred back

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread mike.wikipe...@gmail.com
On 2009-08-06 12:01, Jade Harold wrote: >> Trying to press a en.wp policy(especially one as broad and controversial as >> WP:NOT) on anyone else is foolish and likely to be resisted. > > Pete, I disagree with you especially in a case that a local project > try to omit key concepts such as Consensu

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Chad wrote: > Then ask him/her about it off list. This has nothing to do with > foundation-l. > > -Chad > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM, > mizusumashi wrote: >> Hello, Huib. >> >> O.K. I promise to stop this if Jade would declare her/his edit >> history >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Chad
Then ask him/her about it off list. This has nothing to do with foundation-l. -Chad On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM, mizusumashi wrote: > Hello, Huib. > > O.K.  I promise to stop this if Jade would declare her/his edit history > or other activity - I think it's very very easy -. > > Huib! wrote: >

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread mizusumashi
Hello, Huib. O.K. I promise to stop this if Jade would declare her/his edit history or other activity - I think it's very very easy -. Huib! wrote: > Hello, > > Could you discuss this outside the list? I don't see why it would be > important for this list. > > Best regards, > Huib [[

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Huib!
Hello, Could you discuss this outside the list? I don't see why it would be important for this list. Best regards, Huib -- Http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Abigor ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: htt

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread mizusumashi
Hello, Jade. Jade Harold wrote: > Who are you? and Why you asking me such a thing?? I'm mizusumashi, a Japanese Wikipedia sysop. See: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%88%A9%E7%94%A8%E8%80%85:Mizusumashi?uselang=en http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E5%88%A5:%E6%8A%95%E7%A8%BF%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%B

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Jade Harold
Hey, Who are you? and Why you asking me such a thing?? Honestly, I don't care who is blocked in a local project, and it's beyond of my concern. Plus, truly puzzling, your interest of my activity. Purpose? Explain. 2009/8/6 mizusumashi > Hello, Jade. > > Wp99 is blocked as a sock puppet of very

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, My opinion is that the CC-by-sa has always been the right license. The GFDL served us well and I am really grateful to the FSF that they were so gracious to allow us to move over to the CC-by-sa. The CC-by-sa is a different license and it was the accepted wisdom that CC-by-sa material could be

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread mizusumashi
Hello, Jade. Wp99 is blocked as a sock puppet of very long term abuse user suspected using enormous sock puppets in jawp. I know my following request is rude, but I can't find your activity. Jade, please give me your edit history in any project. Jade Harold wrote: >> Trying to press a en.wp pol

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Coombe
2009/8/6 Jade Harold > >Trying to press a en.wp policy(especially one as broad and controversial > as WP:NOT) on anyone else is foolish and likely to be resisted. > > Pete, I disagree with you especially in a case that a local project > try to omit key concepts such as Consensus Policy. WP:NOT#DE

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-06 Thread Petr Kadlec
2009/8/6 Gerard Meijssen : > It is exactly this why new GFDL images are imho inappropriate. Again, > Commons functions as a repository for all our projects and consequently it > is not really acceptable when it can not function as such for its material. So, your opinion is that Wikipedia (et al.)

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The policies of the English language Wikipedia have evolved over many years and they suit a large world wide audience who is largely part of the Anglo American world. Many other Wikipedias reflect a culture which is distinctly different. with different value systems. These projects slowly but

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Jade Harold
>Trying to press a en.wp policy(especially one as broad and controversial as >WP:NOT) on anyone else is foolish and likely to be resisted. Pete, I disagree with you especially in a case that a local project try to omit key concepts such as Consensus Policy. WP:NOT#DEMO and WP:NOTLAW are generally

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is exactly this why new GFDL images are imho inappropriate. Again, Commons functions as a repository for all our projects and consequently it is not really acceptable when it can not function as such for its material. Thanks, GerardM 2009/8/5 Petr Kadlec > 2009/8/4 Gregory Maxwell

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Coombe
It means global to the English Wikipedia, someone should probably change that. Different languages and projects are largely independent of each other, and can have their own policies. The only requirement is that they follow the founding principles ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Founding_principl