Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Ray Saintonge
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 01:40, Brian J Mingus 
 brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote:
   
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 
 We're the biggest non-profit website in the world. That sounds like
 argument for us to get the prize money to me.
   
 The Internet is definitely worthy of the prize as a whole but I'm not
 following the logic that for-profit websites are more deserving. Google,
 for
 example, is a major force for peace. In fact it is the biggest popularizer
 of Wikimedia content.
 
 Yes, but Google doesn't really need the prize money.

 Although giving it all to Wikimedia is probably not quite right either
Need has never been a factor in awarding these prizes. They are often 
made many years after the person's work is done; the need was probably 
greatest when they were doing their research.

Ec

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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Tim Starling
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 01:40, Brian J Mingus 
 brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8560469.stm

 We're the biggest non-profit website in the world. That sounds like
 argument for us to get the prize money to me.

 The Internet is definitely worthy of the prize as a whole but I'm not
 following the logic that for-profit websites are more deserving. Google,
 for
 example, is a major force for peace. In fact it is the biggest popularizer
 of Wikimedia content.


 Yes, but Google doesn't really need the prize money.
 
 Although giving it all to Wikimedia is probably not quite right either.

Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.

Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
more bizarre choice than last year.

-- Tim Starling


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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Marc Riddell
 on 3/11/10 12:10 PM, Tim Starling at tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
 choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
 more bizarre choice than last year.
 
 -- Tim Starling
 
Bizarre? See beyond the visible, Tim.

Marc Riddell


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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 01:40, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu
 wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8560469.stm
 
  We're the biggest non-profit website in the world. That sounds like
  argument for us to get the prize money to me.
 
  The Internet is definitely worthy of the prize as a whole but I'm not
  following the logic that for-profit websites are more deserving. Google,
  for
  example, is a major force for peace. In fact it is the biggest
 popularizer
  of Wikimedia content.
 
 
  Yes, but Google doesn't really need the prize money.
 
  Although giving it all to Wikimedia is probably not quite right either.

 Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
 they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
 unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.

 Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
 choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
 more bizarre choice than last year.

 -- Tim Starling


I'm actually not sure how unmanned bombers are not a tool for peace given
our current situation. As Obama noted very eloquently in his Nobel
acceptance speech even though we may dream of world peace it is not yet a
reality. The reality is that we have rogue regimes, unstable international
relationships, religious wars, insane people who manage to get elected as
POTUS, etc... Given that we must put men and women in harms way and we must
drop bombs it makes sense to do so in the most responsible way possible.
These unmanned bombers are a step in the right direction. Similarly for
anti-missile lasers. Supposing a hostile nation lobs an ICBM in our
direction if we are capable of zapping it out of the sky then we can avoid
war entirely. It means that we will not have to retaliate with a
counter-ICBM. How is that not for peace? How can you disparage these
technologies with tongue in cheek? A world without them would be utopia for
sure. We do not live in utopia.

Speaking as someone who has been funded by DARPA (I am now funded by
[[IARPA]]) and whose research cannot be used for war I can say that not
everything they do deserves to be described with insidious undertones. Much
of what DARPA invests in has no practical application within any reasonable
time frame. Furthermore I would note that the D is for Defense, and Defense
does not just mean developing new weapons. More and more defense for us
means stopping a threat in its early development so that nobody gets hurt.

Lastly I will note two reasons that the Internet should have been nominated
(not that it will necessarily win - it is against  200 other nominees!)


   - Free access to the sum of all human knowledge for those who have it.
   That's 25% of the world and a recent survey showed that  80% believe that
   everyone deserves access to the Internet as a fundamental right, including 
   70% of those who aren't even connected yet.
   - Secondly, the Internet for Peace Manifesto (
   http://www.internetforpeace.org/uploads/manifesto/manifesto_english.zip):

We have finally realized that the Internet is much more than a network of
 computers. It is an endless web of people.

 Men and women from every corner of the globe are connecting to one another
 thanks to the biggest social interface ever known to humanity.

 Digital culture has laid the foundations for a new kind of society. And
 this society is advancing dialogue, debate and consensus through
 communication.

 Because democracy has always flourished where there is openness,
 acceptance, discussion and participation. And contact with others has always
 been the most effective antidote against hatred and conflict.

 That's why the Internet is a tool for peace.

 That's why anyone who uses it can sow the seeds of non-violence.

 And that's why the next Nobel Peace Prize should go to the Net.
 A Nobel for each and every once of us.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Michael Snow
Brian J Mingus wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
   
 Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
 they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
 unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.

 Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
 choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
 more bizarre choice than last year.

 -- Tim Starling
 
 I'm actually not sure how unmanned bombers are not a tool for peace given
 our current situation. As Obama noted very eloquently in his Nobel
 acceptance speech even though we may dream of world peace it is not yet a
 reality. The reality is that we have rogue regimes, unstable international
 relationships, religious wars, insane people who manage to get elected as
 POTUS, etc...
Can we discuss something else, rather than having the list get 
sidetracked into geopolitical debates that aren't at all useful to the 
work we do? Aside from fantasizing about a share of the prize money, 
even the original subject was not especially on-topic for discussion 
here. Thank you.

--Michael Snow

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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.netwrote:

 Brian J Mingus wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
 
  Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
  they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
  unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.
 
  Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
  choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
  more bizarre choice than last year.
 
  -- Tim Starling
 
  I'm actually not sure how unmanned bombers are not a tool for peace given
  our current situation. As Obama noted very eloquently in his Nobel
  acceptance speech even though we may dream of world peace it is not yet a
  reality. The reality is that we have rogue regimes, unstable
 international
  relationships, religious wars, insane people who manage to get elected as
  POTUS, etc...
 Can we discuss something else, rather than having the list get
 sidetracked into geopolitical debates that aren't at all useful to the
 work we do? Aside from fantasizing about a share of the prize money,
 even the original subject was not especially on-topic for discussion
 here. Thank you.

 --Michael Snow


Yes, hardly anything is relevant for discussion on this list anymore. It
happens either on internal WMF mailing lists or IRL.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.netwrote:

 Brian J Mingus wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net
 wrote:
 
  Brian J Mingus wrote:
 
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Tim Starling 
 tstarl...@wikimedia.org
  wrote:
 
  Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
  they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
  unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.
 
  Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
  choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
  more bizarre choice than last year.
 
  -- Tim Starling
 
  I'm actually not sure how unmanned bombers are not a tool for peace
 given
  our current situation. As Obama noted very eloquently in his Nobel
  acceptance speech even though we may dream of world peace it is not yet
 a
  reality. The reality is that we have rogue regimes, unstable
 
  international
 
  relationships, religious wars, insane people who manage to get elected
 as
  POTUS, etc...
 
  Can we discuss something else, rather than having the list get
  sidetracked into geopolitical debates that aren't at all useful to the
  work we do? Aside from fantasizing about a share of the prize money,
  even the original subject was not especially on-topic for discussion
  here. Thank you.
 
  --Michael Snow
 
  Yes, hardly anything is relevant for discussion on this list anymore. It
  happens either on internal WMF mailing lists or IRL.
 
 It's not that those discussions wouldn't be relevant to have on this
 list, and periodically people try and encourage others to move them to a
 more public setting. It's that when this list continues to show a
 tendency for conversation to degenerate, as it just did, then it's quite
 hard to persuade people that they should want to have their discussions
 here.

 --Michael Snow


You believe that my reply to Tim is degenerate? That is offensive.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:



 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.netwrote:

 Brian J Mingus wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net
 wrote:
 
  Brian J Mingus wrote:
 
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Tim Starling 
 tstarl...@wikimedia.org
  wrote:
 
  Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
  they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
  unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.
 
  Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
  choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an
 even
  more bizarre choice than last year.
 
  -- Tim Starling
 
  I'm actually not sure how unmanned bombers are not a tool for peace
 given
  our current situation. As Obama noted very eloquently in his Nobel
  acceptance speech even though we may dream of world peace it is not
 yet a
  reality. The reality is that we have rogue regimes, unstable
 
  international
 
  relationships, religious wars, insane people who manage to get elected
 as
  POTUS, etc...
 
  Can we discuss something else, rather than having the list get
  sidetracked into geopolitical debates that aren't at all useful to the
  work we do? Aside from fantasizing about a share of the prize money,
  even the original subject was not especially on-topic for discussion
  here. Thank you.
 
  --Michael Snow
 
  Yes, hardly anything is relevant for discussion on this list anymore. It
  happens either on internal WMF mailing lists or IRL.
 
 It's not that those discussions wouldn't be relevant to have on this
 list, and periodically people try and encourage others to move them to a
 more public setting. It's that when this list continues to show a
 tendency for conversation to degenerate, as it just did, then it's quite
 hard to persuade people that they should want to have their discussions
 here.

 --Michael Snow


 You believe that my reply to Tim is degenerate? That is offensive.


 I've decided that this list is no longer useful so I have decided to
unsubscribe. It's been fun. Cheers.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Michael Snow
Brian J Mingus wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.netwrote:
   
 Brian J Mingus wrote:
 
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net
 wrote:
   
 Can we discuss something else, rather than having the list get
 sidetracked into geopolitical debates that aren't at all useful to the
 work we do? Aside from fantasizing about a share of the prize money,
 even the original subject was not especially on-topic for discussion
 here. Thank you.

 --Michael Snow
 
 Yes, hardly anything is relevant for discussion on this list anymore. It
 happens either on internal WMF mailing lists or IRL.
   
 It's not that those discussions wouldn't be relevant to have on this
 list, and periodically people try and encourage others to move them to a
 more public setting. It's that when this list continues to show a
 tendency for conversation to degenerate, as it just did, then it's quite
 hard to persuade people that they should want to have their discussions
 here.

 --Michael Snow
 
 You believe that my reply to Tim is degenerate? That is offensive.
   
Don't imagine for yourself things that I didn't say, and try to not take 
it so personally. We mostly need to improve our discussion overall, not 
remove an individual posting or poster. That's what I mean by 
degenerating. As I indicated earlier, in this case the seeds were sown 
in the choice of the subject to begin with. I happened to reply to your 
message because it was the most recent when I wrote. It could just as 
easily have been Marc's or Tim's.

--Michael Snow

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Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikibooks

2010-03-11 Thread Ray Saintonge
Samuel Klein wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
   
 According to the Language proposal policy, Language committee may approve 
 just a project which intends to be written in one language.
 
 True, the language sub committee is asked to attend to details about
 specific languages; we need a similar process for deciding when to
 form a multilingual site.

 People are still sharply divided about whether beta wikiversity and
 oldwikisource are good ideas, based on which one they've had good
 experiences with.  We need a better view of how the new-language
 process works for them and for incubator.  My sense is that incubator
 could satisfy a lot of what people want out of Project-specific
 multilingual sites, with a few additional features.

   
I find for the most part that people like to compartmentalize their 
knowledge based on the premise that it will somehow be easier to 
understand.  Naturally, cutting out some knowledge makes it easier to 
understand, and shutting out incomprehensible languages is one of the 
easiest ways of doing that. But at what cost?

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Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-11 Thread Ray Saintonge
Brian J Mingus wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Michael Snow wrote:
   
 It's not that those discussions wouldn't be relevant to have on this
 list, and periodically people try and encourage others to move them to a
 more public setting. It's that when this list continues to show a
 tendency for conversation to degenerate, as it just did, then it's quite
 hard to persuade people that they should want to have their discussions
 here.
 

 You believe that my reply to Tim is degenerate? That is offensive.
   

There's a big difference between degenerate as a verb, and the same 
word as an adjective. The adjective is full of additional connotations.

Past practice has shown that that the most effective way to keep a 
thread alive is to try to get it stopped.

Ec

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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 72, Issue 29

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   4. Re: Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize (Michael Snow)
   5. Re: Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize (Brian J Mingus)
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   8. Re: Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize (Brian J Mingus)


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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:10:25 -0800
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Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 01:40, Brian J Mingus 
 brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8560469.stm

 We're the biggest non-profit website in the world. That sounds like
 argument for us to get the prize money to me.

 The Internet is definitely worthy of the prize as a whole but I'm not
 following the logic that for-profit websites are more deserving. Google,
 for
 example, is a major force for peace. In fact it is the biggest popularizer
 of Wikimedia content.


 Yes, but Google doesn't really need the prize money.
 
 Although giving it all to Wikimedia is probably not quite right either.

Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.

Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
more bizarre choice than last year.

-- Tim Starling




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 on 3/11/10 12:10 PM, Tim Starling at tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
 choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
 more bizarre choice than last year.
 
 -- Tim Starling
 
Bizarre? See beyond the visible, Tim.

Marc Riddell




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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 01:40, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu
 wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8560469.stm
 
  We're the biggest non-profit website in the world. That sounds like
  argument for us to get the prize money to me.
 
  The Internet is definitely worthy of the prize as a whole but I'm not
  following the logic that for-profit websites are more deserving. Google,
  for
  example, is a major force for peace. In fact it is the biggest
 popularizer
  of Wikimedia content.
 
 
  Yes, but Google doesn't really need the prize money.
 
  Although giving it all to Wikimedia is probably not quite right either.

 Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
 they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
 unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.

 Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
 choose the 

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 Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 01:40, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu
 wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8560469.stm
 
  We're the biggest non-profit website in the world. That sounds like
  argument for us to get the prize money to me.
 
  The Internet is definitely worthy of the prize as a whole but I'm not
  following the logic that for-profit websites are more deserving. Google,
  for
  example, is a major force for peace. In fact it is the biggest
 popularizer
  of Wikimedia content.
 
 
  Yes, but Google doesn't really need the prize money.
 
  Although giving it all to Wikimedia is probably not quite right either.

 Give the Nobel Peace Prize to DARPA for designing the Internet. And
 they've made so many other excellent contributions to peace, like
 unmanned bombers and anti-missile lasers.

 Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
 choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
 more bizarre choice than last year.

 -- Tim Starling




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  on 3/11/10 12:10 PM, Tim Starling at tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  Seriously, the only reason I can think of that the committee would
  choose the internet as a recipient is if they wanted to make an even
  more bizarre choice than last year.
 
  -- Tim Starling
 
 Bizarre? See beyond the visible, Tim.

 Marc Riddell




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 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

  Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
   On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 01:40, Brian J Mingus 
 brian.min...@colorado.edu
  wrote:
  
   On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Dalton 
 thomas.dal...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8560469.stm
  
   We're the biggest non-profit website in the world. That sounds like
   argument for us to get the prize money to me.
  
   The Internet is definitely worthy of the prize as a whole but I'm not
   following the logic that for-profit websites are more deserving.
 Google,
   for
   example, is a major force for peace. In fact it is the biggest
  popularizer
   of Wikimedia content.
  
  
   Yes, but Google doesn't really need the prize money.
  
   Although giving it all to Wikimedia is probably not quite right 

[Foundation-l] The Wikimedia Foundation: doing strategic planning the open source way

2010-03-11 Thread Naoko Komura
Chris Grams says in his blog today, I've gotta say. I've seen strategic 
planning, but I have /never/ seen strategic planning like this before. 
Open, transparent discussion. Broad collaboration. Deep analysis, 
insight, and research from the people who care most and are closest to 
the issues and challenges being addressed—meritocracy in action.

http://opensource.com/business/10/3/wikimedia-foundation-doing-strategic-planning-open-source-way

I think so too. Cheers to Strategic Planing Team, especially Eugene and 
Philippe!

- Naoko

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Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters Committee - Call for Candidates

2010-03-11 Thread Jeromy-Yu Chan (Jerry~Yuyu)
 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:49:31 +0100
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 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
 wrote:
  it is a pleasure to announce that the chapters committee has received
 more
  than enough applications to fill its vacancies, and that five new members
  have been added to the committee. You can find the current membership, as
  usual, on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee

 Great! I am happy to see fresh perspectives on this important
 committee. Thanks to all those who volunteered for serving on the
 chapters committee and congrats to those who were chosen: Jeromy-Yu,
 Bence, Vladimir, Sebastian and Ray.

 Keep up the good work. There are still some countries left not having
 a chapter yet ;-)

 Arne
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 Member of the Board of Trustees
 aklemp...@wikimedia.org


Thx Arne and all who welcomed and congratulated me in any means

I'll try my best to help around, especially for the Asian Group

if any Asian Chapters-wannabe have any problems, plz do not hesitate to find
me :p

Jerry~雨雨
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