[Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Medaille und Academy

2010-11-25 Thread Ting Chen
Hello all, Olaf Simons, a literature researcher and Wikipedian, wrote a mail on the mailing list of the German chapter about his experience both as a researcher and as a Wikipedian. I find his experience very insightful and got his allowance to forward the mail here, because I think these

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Medaille und Academy

2010-11-25 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:13:56 +0100, Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de wrote: Hello all, ... I think it is very important for us to understand the difficulties academics face if they want to join the Wikimedian community. And maybe we should rethink about our strategy and approach on working

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2010-11-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/25/2010 9:14:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, wing.phil...@gmx.de writes: I think it is very important for us to understand the difficulties academics face if they want to join the Wikimedian community. And maybe we should rethink about our strategy and approach on

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2010-11-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
It happens more and more often that books copy from Wikipedia. I found verbatim parts of an article I had written in a book published by John Wiley Sons the other day. No attribution whatsoever. It's a headache for the copyright team on en:WP because they have to figure out which came first.

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2010-11-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/25/2010 10:57:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, jayen...@yahoo.com writes: It's a headache for the copyright team on en:WP because they have to figure out which came first. First there should be a presumption that established editors (I've been in-project for seven

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2010-11-25 Thread geni
On 25 November 2010 22:15, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: We have Geni, many ways to determine if someone is an established editor. Name one that doesn't boil down to editcountitis We have flags already to mark people as established editors in addition to that. I for one have no wish to turn

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2010-11-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/25/2010 3:31:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: On 25 November 2010 22:15, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: We have Geni, many ways to determine if someone is an established editor. Name one that doesn't boil down to editcountitis We have flags

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2010-11-25 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Dear Mr. Will Johnson, Three hurrays for the separations of powers, checks and balances and full accountability to oneself, others and the foundations of a civilized community. You got my attention and my empathy. Virgilio A. P. Machado At 19:43 25-11-2010, you wrote: In a message dated

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2010-11-25 Thread Marc Riddell
In a message dated 11/25/2010 3:31:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, geni...@gmail.com writes: On 25 November 2010 22:15, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: We have Geni, many ways to determine if someone is an established editor. Name one that doesn't boil down to editcountitis We have flags

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2010-11-25 Thread Russell Nelson
Okay, but that's just to control the power of the monopoly federal government, which is STRICTLY limited in what it can do (unfortunately, most Americans have forgotten that part). To control the power of the states (which is where nearly everything SHOULD be done), there is nothing that a state

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Medaille und Academy

2010-11-25 Thread David Goodman
We at Wikipedia are not by ourselves going to reform or replace the reward structure of the academic world. The suggestion I have recently been making, is that when someone in the academic world wants to write something general, they publish one version under their name , at least on their own