[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 15 – 11 April 2011

2011-04-12 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Editor retention; Malayalam loves Wikimedia; Wikimedia reports; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-04-11/News_and_notes In the news: What if experts just want to get their links into Wikipedia?; brief news

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 12/04/2011 02:32: If WMF websites happened to be overtaken by Ask.com or some other website, it would be good to be forced to change the habit of how we describe them. If you use more generic language, the likelihood of needing to update that language later decreases. Yes, and my

[Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Shadow His
Hello. http://toolserver.org/~kalan is redirected to Russian Wikipedia article «Хуй (значения)». This is very incorrect redirect («Хуй» («Khuy») in Russian mean obscene word, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mat_(Russian_profanity) ) and in fact a vandalism: this toolserver account contains

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/12/2011 02:51 PM, Shadow His wrote: http://toolserver.org/~kalan is redirected to Russian Wikipedia article «Хуй (значения)». This is very incorrect redirect («Хуй» («Khuy») in Russian mean obscene word, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mat_(Russian_profanity) ) and in fact a

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: You can stop using http://toolserver.org/~kalan/arb10/ if you have problems with profanity on user's main personal page. Server admins usually prefer not to do anything in relation to personal files if it is not a security

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:53, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: You're mistaken.  The toolserver has strict rules: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Rules Using toolserver access in a manner that does not further the toolserver's goals (or, indeed, hinders them) is a

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Jason donovan
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:53, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: You're mistaken. The toolserver has strict rules: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Rules Using toolserver access in a manner that

[Foundation-l] nth largest site on the Internet, and what we should measure ourselves by instead

2011-04-12 Thread WereSpielChequers
Re the argument that we should trumpet ourselves as, or even be be concerned as to whether we are the 5th largest site on the Internet. Our remit is to make the world's knowledge freely available to all, and the Internet is by far the most important medium we use to do that. If fewer people were

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/12/2011 04:45 PM, Jason donovan wrote: I'm sorry but I don't see the wisdom in antagonizing someone for bringing a legitimate concern to this list. It might not be the right place and he did copy the message to toolserver-l but telling him to stop using toolserver...if you have problem

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: As admin (but not Toolserver admin), the sense of rules similar to excuses such as 'the rules didn't say I can't do this' will be ignored. is obvious to me and it means don't make troubles. Having a redirect to a

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 18:29, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: As admin (but not Toolserver admin), the sense of rules similar to excuses such as 'the rules didn't say I can't do this' will be ignored.

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Sue Gardner
On 9 April 2011 20:21, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I don't mean to minimise the importance of keeping our established users happy and free from harassment, but I want to caution against the biases that we will undoubtedly have in considering our focus. Anecdotally, we tend

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Fred Bauder
You can see it in this Google spreadsheet here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aq_nhKkb7L-OdG5uWlJLT25TZkZ3MzdSeUNqZnZqY2chl=enauthkey=CP3O_PgO -- it's publicly viewable but not editable. Brilliant! One point though, every item on that list has a meta solution of better information

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Quim Gil
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 10:36 -0700, ext Sue Gardner wrote: We do all see the world from where we sit, and we interact with the people we already know ... so, experienced editors will be more exposed to the kinds of concerns shared by other experienced editors, and those concerns will

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: In fact Wikimedia content is also popular among mobile users (directly or through apps), but what about mobile contributions? I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny new BlackBerry 9300. (Which can browse Wikipedia just

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
I tried it about half a dozen times on my HTC desire. The user experience is truly dreadful, and I'm not trying it again. Op 12 apr. 2011 21:02 schreef David Gerard dger...@gmail.com het volgende: On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: In fact Wikimedia content is also

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Chris Keating
I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny new BlackBerry 9300. (Which can browse Wikipedia just fine.) It was ridiculously annoying and I'm not sure I'd bother fixing typos I spotted in casual reading. (At least Vector worked in that version of the BlackBerry browser ...) Does

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: In fact Wikimedia content is also popular among mobile users (directly or through apps), but what about mobile contributions? I just tried editing an article

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Quim Gil
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 20:02 +0100, ext David Gerard wrote: On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: In fact Wikimedia content is also popular among mobile users (directly or through apps), but what about mobile contributions? I just tried editing an article on en:wp

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Sue Gardner
On 12 April 2011 12:02, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny new BlackBerry 9300. (Which can browse Wikipedia just fine.) It was ridiculously annoying and I'm not sure I'd bother fixing typos I spotted in casual reading. (At least Vector