Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 01.12.2011 10:53, schrieb John Vandenberg: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: ... The downstream use objection was *never* about downstream use of _content_ but downstream use of _labels_ and the structuring of the semantic data. That is a

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 01.12.2011 20:06, schrieb Tom Morris: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 09:11, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: This is not a theoretical risk. This has happened. Most famously in the case of Virgin using pictures of persons that were licenced under a free licence, in their

[Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread WereSpielChequers
I'm pretty sure that the community is against a filter system based on our commons categories. Those who oppose that type of scheme range from the idealists who are opposed to censorship in principle to the pragmatists who are aware of our categorisation backlog and don't want to set us up to fail

Re: [Foundation-l] c6e7b72d1e1d565603d3d7b0a77e00ba17a7d306

2011-12-02 Thread Thomas Morton
It's not spam; it's the mailing list confirmation string. Obviously didn't quite go right :) Tom ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 December 2011 11:00, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: A fourth area of contention is money and specifically whether this is a legitimate use of the money donated to the movement. We've already had one UK board member ask awkward question re this. Wikimedia

[Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread WereSpielChequers
Message: 6 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:55:29 +0200 From: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID:

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 December 2011 14:36, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: My reading of that is that the board has agreed to drop the idea of a filter based on our category system, but unfortunately they haven't yet agreed to drop the idea that someone controlling an IP could censor what

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread geni
On 2 December 2011 14:50, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 December 2011 14:36, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: My reading of that is that the board has agreed to drop the idea of a filter based on our category system, but unfortunately they haven't yet agreed

[Foundation-l] Reminder: office hours this morning with WMF General Counsel

2011-12-02 Thread Steven Walling
Hi everyone, This is a reminder that in about 20 minutes Geoff Brigham, our General Counsel, will be in #wikimedia-office to answer your questions. This is Geoff's first office hours, so please take a moment before we start to read the introduction that he wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:36 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: We already have a no censorship policy that makes various exceptions. For Example Paedophilia advocates get blocked on site on EN wikipedia. There may in the past have been a consensus against any change to

Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: office hours this morning with WMF General Counsel

2011-12-02 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi everyone, This is a reminder that in about 20 minutes Geoff Brigham, our General Counsel, will be in #wikimedia-office to answer your questions. This is Geoff's first office hours, so please take a moment before

Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: office hours this morning with WMF General Counsel

2011-12-02 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:23:14PM +0300, Dan Rosenthal wrote: Trying to connect -- anyone else having trouble or is it just me? It's you. :-) -- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: office hours this morning with WMF General Counsel

2011-12-02 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Thanks, I figured out the problem, or rather a workaround. Dan Rosenthal On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:23:14PM +0300, Dan Rosenthal wrote: Trying to connect -- anyone else having trouble or is it just me? It's you. :-)

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 15 minutes

2011-12-02 Thread Oliver Keyes
Hey guys; the AFT office hours session will be starting at 11:00 (or whenever Geoff finishes) :). Hope to see you all there! -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread Andre Engels
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Am I being dense, or are you being silly? Blocking advocacy from a site with a NPOV policy is a bajillion miles from being censorship. It may be a bajillion miles, I still think it's closer to it than giving the

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Audit and Audit FAQ's for the period ending June 30, 2011

2011-12-02 Thread Jay Walsh
HI folks - on-passing this important note from Garfield! On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: The audit of the Wikimedia Foundation and frequently asked questions about the audit for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2011 are available at

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Am I being dense, or are you being silly? Blocking advocacy from a site with a NPOV policy is a bajillion miles from being censorship.

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-02 Thread Phil Nash
1: pedophiles are being blocked even if they are not advocating, if I remember correctly 2: they are blocked because their behaviour on the site is agains our principles Either they are advocating, or they are not. Either they are inappropriately trying to contact minors, or they are not.

[Foundation-l] From Lebanon

2011-12-02 Thread joumanaboufakhreddine
Hello, I am an independent Lebanese journalist. I am very interested to be your company representative in Lebanon, with whom I may communicate concerning this matter? Also I have a project proposal doing internet interaction site for intellectuals, with whom should I communicate? Thank you.