as that was all modeled on freemasonary.
I don't if there is a general concept in German for the way lodge is used in
Freemasaonary, but in English chapter applies to this concept.
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should be more successful than making blocks stick for the extreme cases.
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being harmed by Wikipedia needs to be universal, I don't that it should be
put in terms of de-style or en-style.
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the issue I reported was
significant is discouraging. I imagine casual reporters who do not see the
issues they report resolved nor get feedback on why the issues is not a concern
simply stop making reports there.
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Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:03 AM
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not spend time thinking on before even though they existed. The
arguments that are anti-transition are really arguments against the status quo
as well. And the pro-transition camp contains a great variety of opinions as
to exactly how we should transition.
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it out on en.WP.
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the rest of us your
stereotyped rant.
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Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 10:16 AM
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exactly what the next level of appeals would be,
but we might want to wait for a ruling that covers WMF servers before we act on
it. I hope these restorations continue to be struck down in the courts. It
will be much simpler to determine copyright if they go away.
Birgitte SB
exactly what the next level of appeals would be,
but we might want to wait for a ruling that covers WMF servers before we act on
it. I hope these restorations continue to be struck down in the courts. It
will be much simpler to determine copyright if they go away.
Birgitte SB
6, 2009, 12:39 PM
2009/4/6 Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com:
While this is definitely encouraging news, we might
want to hold off on changing our evaluation of
URAA restorations. The tenth circuit doesn't include
Florida. I don't know exactly what the next
level of appeals would
about this now rather when we face this problem.
Those are not situations which would be covered by any Compulsory policy across
projects. Community governance does depend only on the local community. That
is a feature not a bug.
Birgitte SB
better to use something like:
http://markmail.org/search/?q=cc-by-sa#query:cc-by-sa%20list%3Aorg.wikimedia.lists.foundation-l+page:1+state:facets
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community to accept without
fracturing.
But those are my personal thoughts. You probably won't get an actual straight
answer here.
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needs to work
out what standards are most pragmatic for it's members. There is no shortcut
or appeal to authority that can solve this for en.WP. en.WP has to do the work
and find these answers from within.
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Are all your emails showing up at
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-April/author.html
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and leaving the whatever existing stumbling blocks
are in place for general re-purposing of the content.
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different things
unacceptable?
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related,
after a certain level.
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Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 1:26 PM
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Your really didn't address my question. Why do you
think WMF resources are best used to create and support a
mirror for people who are disgusted by sexuality rather
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I think this email really shows a misunderstanding of
Wikipedia is not censored is about; so I am starting a new
thread to discuss
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Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 1:49 PM
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Well you now snipped it all, but someone suggested
creating mirror under a different domain name for schools.
I replied to that saying how I thought resources were
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chance to actually move forward on
anything. It still takes months, but you really don't have a hope of getting
people to help you until focus on one thing of a manageable size.
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holders 95% of the time there, so the license is not up to them. The
background stuff on the site and any notes written by editors to introduce the
texts, will be relicensed I suppose.
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the no message option by 10 to 1. Why can't we test
messages that are actually clear and honest? Wikipedia will still be free for
everyone if not a single further donation is ever made.
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should say
three people on ignore for that reason alone. It saves a great deal of
argument.
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informed that it is
a local matter and that the each wiki is self-governing. Frankly the autonomy
of the wikis is hardly a choice, if you honestly consider the logistics of it.
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There are always extreme situations that merit exceptional treatment. ja.WP,
however, has a great deal more than 3 active users.
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, etc. It is
very touchy situation that leans towards misunderstandings even when everyone
speaks the same language.
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--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
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AM
Birgitte SB wrote:
I don't know that it is useful to make a general
policy for exceptions. I think it is better just to
watch out for such problems to pop up and try to direct
attention to them when they are noticed.
I think it is a better use of time and energy to wait
and react
been able to share is experience
with WMF throughout this year instead of just this short interm. This of
course did not happen, but it should not seen a fault of Matt's that it was not
the case.
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--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de wrote:
From: Ting Chen wing
here. What is the
american way ? And what do you mean by pedagogic?
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I checked on it today and saw that this bug is marked resolved. Tisza, is it
working to hu.WP's satisfaction now?
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communication than has happened here.
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I honestly believe that as long as this sort of tone continues to be a regular
feature here; the overwhelming majority of participants here will be Western
men.
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have done; your commitment to Wikimedia will
be a hard act to follow. I hope I will still see you around here (foundation-l).
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of only those two I have been handling for most of
the past year. Maybe I will resubscribe when I can hire people again. Good
luck with making sure this list is worth re-subscribing too. I truly hope you
all succeed with that.
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population are
sensitive about lyncing.
That post can only being seen as an example of agressive disrespect of other
cultures by people who think happening to be born in the USA is an agressive
disrespect of other cultures. Americans are people too!
Birgitte SB
.
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, but it is very important for us since our structure is so open. It is
difficult to see how we might help one another given such basic
incompatibilities in structure.
Birgitte SB
[1]http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Frederic_Shoberl_-_Persia.djvu
Click on any yellow highlighted number
that as exciting as having their own Wikipedia must sound,
they might be more successful as a project within de.WP or de.WB And even if
they are dead-set on an independent wiki, they will benefit from starting
within an existing structure to grow a good sized proof of concept.
Birgitte SB
they are participating in this
conversation and therefore unable to clarify. I am afraid I don't speak German,
but I would like to see what I can gather from machine translation if you would
please direct me to the proper links.
Birgitte SB
.
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gathered.
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. If the
WMF is often an outside party to the volunteers for all practical purposes, at
least is an outside party well aligned with goals of the volunteers. And if
that ever fails to be true it is not the volunteers that I think would be
driven away.
Birgitte SB
where LBGT
folks are persecuted
These issues are not really good arguments for never having Wikimania in
certain countries. They are good arguments for rotating Wikimania amoung a
large variety of different sorts of countries.
Birgitte SB
Obviously the original e-mail belonged on wiki-en-l and was off-topic for
foundation-l. But I can't understand why so many different people think it is
a good idea to respond to off-topic posts in kind. Please stop participating
in the off-topic contests.
Birgitte SB
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necessary for them to be involved in achieving a negative result.
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--- On Tue, 9/28/10, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
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September 2010 18:10, Birgitte
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wrote:
Without having formed in opinion either way to what
has come out of the
trial or the straw polls, I don't understand why there
is such importance
placed on *technically* disabling the feature.
If en.WP doesn't want to use
. Not cutting off other forums.
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readers.
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to be the sort of gut-shot that
hasn't been thought through. Moderate more people based on real criteria,
rather than how you feel about them.
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not be banned, but it
is clear that trolling and personal attacks do not bring about moderation.
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must you approach responses that are not full agreement with you as combat?
You
obviously aren't on my ignore list, but frankly I am not sure how
representative
this thread is of your general behavior. I guess I will know in a year or so.
Birgitte SB
- Original Message
From: wjhon...@aol.com wjhon...@aol.com
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Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 10:35:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia
In a message dated 12/10/2010 6:52:05 AM Pacific Standard Time,
zvand...@googlemail.com writes:
. If it does in fact turn out to be overreaction, I imagine
it will be adjusted sooner or later. There are good reasons to be tolerant of
local overreactions; it is not as though we can judge which practice will fail
of the cost/benefit equation without trying it on for some time.
Birgitte SB
What project are you speaking of? At en.WS the entire navigation structure of
how to move between Chapters within a book is encoded in templates. I can't
imagine how they could be scapped.
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navigation
structure of
how to move between Chapters within a book is encoded in templates. I
can't
imagine how they could be scapped.
Birgitte SB
[[Moby Dick, chapter 2]] might work.
Fred Bauder
No it wouldn't. You might actually wish to examine any random main namespace
page
started instead of making the project actually work with templates?
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health of the Wikimedia community and it's ability to integrate
newcomers as to prefer ignorance.
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channels in place of gossip.
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[1]To be complete I feel I need add in some values where gossip rated
positively. Just to prevent anyone who has never given the issue much thought
from jumping ahead from what I have said above to Gossip=Evil.
Gossip an organic component of human
successfully engage with the communities. The communities will be able
to do a large majority of what they want to do with or without WMF. WMF only
makes the communities more efficient not inherently viable. The reverse is not
true.
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and picks and announces whichever
proposal she judges best by noon; that is a valid process. Having a valid
process doesn't mean having a poll or a public discussion or losing control
over the decision. Just setting up basic expectations and conforming to them.
Birgitte SB
)
On 18 February 2011 01:25, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
interests being trampled without much thought was David Gerard's posting
his
take on the copyright considerations at en.WS with regard to the UK law
prohibiting Fox Hunting link to the foundation-l archives
by people with
narrow interests and sometimes based on ancient traditions that translate
poorly
into our modern world. It is not in any way universal. Not internationally
speaking. Not over time. Not across mediums.
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realistically hope for.
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- Original Message
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Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 7:10:44 AM
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Resolution? As new tools are
developed, who will be responsible for keeping track of their existence and
seeing that it is determined whether or not those who will be given access to
them will need to become a subject of the Identification Resolution?
Birgitte SB
[1] http://www.gossamer
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Cc: Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 3:51:50 PM
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, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 3:51:50 PM
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On 26 February 2011 22:58, Birgitte SB
be personally vigilant
regarding those who might try to restrict the descendants of our collected
content from others. What is it that you want to do?
Birgitte SB
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-ranging and
uncertain duties = ambiguous description of opening.
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Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 4:46:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Storyteller job opening
From
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2011/2/27 Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com:
No one wants to attack
problematic.
Birgitte SB
[1]
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of relevance at this point in time.
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, identification numbers, etc. is only
seen by the notary who puts a seal on the document to verify that the signature
was made by the person with that name.
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is needed more along the lines
of Dedicated to Emancipating Culture - we are committed the licensing all
internally owned copyrights under [favorite free license] and to forthrightly
advertising the most accurate copyright information we can on all the content
we
curate.
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at 2:27 PM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
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It is true however that many chapters do important work for
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As for the rest I
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