Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual images of questionable provenance

2008-12-10 Thread David Moran
Also, it's probably worth pointing out that most of the people here ultimately seem to be urging a re-examination of Flickr-licensed images in general, not so much specifically sexual ones. FMF On 12/10/08, David Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's helpful or useful

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Content on Wikimedia

2009-01-29 Thread David Moran
Commons is meant to be a collection of freely-licensed media, not a dumping ground for all media that happens to be free. What's the difference? FMF On 1/29/09, Marcus Buck m...@marcusbuck.org wrote: Two comments: Thomas Dalton hett schreven: Topless sunbathing is a legitimate topic for

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Content on Wikimedia

2009-01-29 Thread David Moran
just because we can have 4500 pictures of erect penises, doesn't mean we should. For what reason, specifically? FMF On 1/29/09, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:22 PM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: voyeurism isn't relevant to our culture? On

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Content on Wikimedia

2009-01-29 Thread David Moran
I am aware of. FMF On 1/29/09, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:46 PM, David Moran fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: just because we can have 4500 pictures of erect penises, doesn't mean we should. For what reason, specifically? FMF On 1/29/09

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Content on Wikimedia

2009-01-30 Thread David Moran
I think perhaps then the most fundamental disagreement we have is the idea that sexual images equal harm. FMF On 1/29/09, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: To some of those people, and to others, trying to place

Re: [Foundation-l] Encarta is dead

2009-03-31 Thread David Moran
Well wow. FMF 2009/3/31 shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com Oh, M$ 2009/3/31 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com Encarta is dead [1]. Anyone willing to talk with Microsoft about getting materials for Wikipedia? [1] - http://encarta.msn.com/guide_page_FAQ/FAQ.html

Re: [Foundation-l] Interview: Wikipedia usability and test results

2009-03-31 Thread David Moran
*No, there will be no edit wars at all! There will be no quarrels, no uncertainties, no cybermobbing* Oh, I can't wait to see THIS. DM On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.comwrote: Hello, A couple of days ago I have contacted our project manager in San

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-14 Thread David Moran
This one's been discussed ad nauseam already, and I think the community's discussions pretty unambiguously tend towards keep. FMF On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: My opinion on this is clear: Commons should welcome both photographs and pictures.

Re: [Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread David Moran
While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. DM On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: I concur with Phil. That thing is more press

Re: [Foundation-l] Minors and sexual explicit stuff

2009-11-17 Thread David Moran
The New York City public library system--and I would imagine most municipal library systems in general--is filled with underage interns (or pages, or whatever they're called now) who play a not insignificant role in curating collections that contain material every bit as explicit as those examples

Re: [Foundation-l] Minors and sexual explicit stuff

2009-11-18 Thread David Moran
Yeah, what Finne said. Thanks for the straw man, though. FMF On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 19:09, Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com wrote: Geni, you (and others) seem to place a lot of stock in parent responsibility:

Re: [Foundation-l] Minors and sexual explicit stuff

2009-11-18 Thread David Moran
Right now I'm just going to quote a bit from the General Policy page of the Huntsville-Madison County Public Library system in Alabama. Not because they're special, but the anecdotal sample here is fairly representative of the policies of public information resources everywhere, not just here in

Re: [Foundation-l] WSJ on Wikipedia

2009-11-23 Thread David Moran
Getting back to the content of the article: I get that inclusionism vs deletionism is a tired way to talk about divisions between camps of editors, and that everyone rolls their eyes when you start talking about it, but yeah, it's real. Every single person I know who was once a producing

Re: [Foundation-l] Can you tell us about ... - An Idea to encourage more edits

2009-11-24 Thread David Moran
I actually like this idea, a LOT. The main page basically poses Wikipedia as a warehouse of content, which is fine, it is that, but also does little to pose Wikipedia as a collaborative project. Yeah, new visitors can technically TRY to edit our main page articles now, but generally the stuff

Re: [Foundation-l] commercial use of wikipedia content

2009-12-27 Thread David Moran
*For the later, I suppose there is nothing we can do, however this seems to ruin the whole business model, doesn't it? * Well, that's because Wikimedia isn't a business model. DM On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Istvan Soos istvan.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm evaluating our legal options

Re: [Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread David Moran
I think this is a great idea actually. Probably a good place to start would be the WikiProject: Sex page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sexology_and_sexuality Commons would probably be (or should be) interested as well. Cheers DM On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jiří

Re: [Foundation-l] Where things stand now

2010-05-08 Thread David Moran
*I think that's fairly naive, actually. I'd rather suspect the story Fox (which seems to be your main concern) will go with is We were right all along, they *were* hosting kiddie porn! Just look, they deleted it all after we exposed their filthy secret. *What you're saying is that Fox News would

Re: [Foundation-l] Time to reset the 'founder' flag-- Jimbo is no longer a viable king.

2010-05-08 Thread David Moran
*He can participate in discussions and make a decision as godking, but then why does he need to carry the decision out himself? * I'm not sure I see what the distinction would be. You want him to write policy by fiat, but not to actually click the save button himself?

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

2010-08-29 Thread David Moran
*The problem is that until someone sits up and notices the serious errors that are propagated through Wikipedia (and which are now becoming part of the folk wisdom of the internet), no one will be bothered. * I think my problem with suggestions like this is that the assumption at the heart of all

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

2010-08-29 Thread David Moran
: On 29 August 2010 17:19, David Moran fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: I think my problem with suggestions like this is that the assumption at the heart of all of them--that experts with degrees are preferable as information authorities to nonexperts without--is deeply problematic, and I'm

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia articles based on Wikileaks material

2010-12-12 Thread David Moran
Taking the nonexistence of an article on a particular subject as positive evidence of an editorial judgment by our best sources is an unsupportable argument. Wikipedia is not here to index articles published in the NYT and Washington Post. A reputable secondary source is a reputable secondary

Re: [Foundation-l] How many articles have you created?

2011-04-10 Thread David Moran
Personally, I am a Wikipedian who prefers the creation of new articles to the maintenance of old ones. I'd guess I've created several hundred. It's not that I don't see the value in improving existing articles, I simply find it more rewarding to make new ones. And efficient - being a person who