One has to wonder how the community will be able to discuss unlocking the
project if the project is locked.
Risker
i.e., we can leave unlocked the village pump
Jalo
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, that the amendment must be published
without comment and unmodifiable, so we'll have to block all articles in
which an amandment is required (almost all politicals articles, sport
players articles, merchandising sellers articles and so on).
Jalo
Much easier to sue under standard defamation laws (which we are under risk
of daily anyway!).
Not at all! In the italian laws, if you bring lawsuit against me for
defamation, you must prove I'm not saying the truth.
With this law you can bring lawsuit against me simply 'cause I've not
Isn't this premature? As I understand, the law is still being discussed,
not
yet in affect.
If the law passes, it'll be too late
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In any case, if the servers are located in the US then US law applies to
their management.
No. Italian citizens that operates wiki (uses a pc) in Italy must follow
both italian and US law
Jalo
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Whoever has locked out access to it.wikipedia.org should be immediately
desysopped under emergency procedures
We knew about this danger. But in the case, you have to desysop many of us.
The responsible is not only the one who edited the page, but all of us that
agreed on the strike
Is the Kiribati based community (or a part of it) of Wikipedians allowed
to block en.wikipedia.org for x hours because a new Kiribatian (sp?)
media law might come?
Mathias
You're right, 2-3% of it.wikip users live outside of Italy, but this new law
will affect every page in which a user
Then can you specify the threshold for the community-ratio that is in
your opinion required for some Wikipedians to vandalize a language
edition of Wikipedia in such way?
I've already told that: 100% of articles. Do you need a larger threshold?
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FWIW because of the way this has been implemented, it is not (at least
obviously) possible to rollback/reverse via the web interface (it appears
to
be a change in common.js - and even that page redirects to the message).
Tom
You can disable javascripts and css in your browser. For
If you don't even think that is a comparable situation, then you clearly
don't understand at all what some people think the image filter is all
about.
You're comparing a wiki without images with a world (the italian world)
without wiki. mumble To me, it seems to be slightly different
Except that WMF as steward of the open information can roll any of that
blackout crap back.
Domas
There's no need to be so drastic. If WMF wishes the block to be removed, it
simply can ask it and we'll do. In a couple of minutes. We're not moving war
against WMF.
Howerer, at the moment WMF
the subject would have the right for a statement to be shown, unaltered, on
the page (which
actually would be possible for Wikipedia to do, via a transcluded and
protected template).
I think not. The transcluded template can be deleted from the article, if
you don't block the article itself
Possibly relevant update:
http://www.rainews24.rai.it/it/news.php?newsid=157111 (might need
translation)
Theo
The comma has been discussed into the Comitato dei Nove, that is a simply
discussion committee. They have proposed (it seems) to apply the law only to
internet newspapers,
I wasn't logged in, to begin with. I was looking at it as any casual
reader would.
Austin
To me, it works. Which browser are you using?
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It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up
in Italy.
/me claps
Good show, Italy. Knowledge is free.
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~Keegan
Not so easy. Yesterday an amendment has been officially proposed, not
approved. It will be discussed
restored wikipedia 'cause the it.wikip comunity whishes that,
but the threat
remains
Jalo
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