[Foundation-l] New Models of Affiliation draft parameters

2012-03-26 Thread Bishakha Datta
Dear all, Many thanks for bringing the discussion on New Models of Affiliations this far. Building on earlier Movement Roles discussions from last year and on the New Models working group's discussions earlier this month [1], here are a set of draft principles and parameters for the four

[Foundation-l] New Models of Affiliation update

2012-03-01 Thread Bishakha Datta
that are slowly being discussed on the talk page. A small informal working group is aiming to move this discussion forward in the next 15 days. We are: Bence Damakos - ChapCom Bishakha Datta - WMF Board Joan Goma - Amical Sam Klein - WMF Board Delphine Menard - WM DE, ChapCom Achal Prabhala

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-15 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:17 PM, BĂ©ria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Serious that you can't see the good side in ask the chapters, Bishakha? Awaiting your and others' thoughts on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_affiliation_models#Questions Cheers Bishakha

[Foundation-l] Movement Roles: questions on New Models

2012-02-14 Thread Bishakha Datta
Dear all, I went through the lists and collated a bunch of questions that have been asked (without identifying who has asked these). I have put them on the talk page of the MR letter, so that we can systematically start considering and addressing them. This is the link:

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: 2012/2/14 Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org: It is clear to me that there is a close link between the fundraising/dissemination discussion and the increased options of organising ourselves. I am also

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-13 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.dam...@laposte.netwrote: I hope that these models won't be used to softly downgrade (or threaten to downgrade) chapters that would be said not having their bylaws and mission aligned with Wikimedia's. I see new 'models' as a positive

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-13 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.comwrote: One benefit I can identify from this decision is that we could push forward that * partner organizations are ONLY recognized by Wikimedia Foundation * whilst chapters could finally push forward the idea that a new

Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social

2011-12-06 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 09:25:03PM +0530, Achal Prabhala wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2011 08:27 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: I do not believe that the Indian internet community shares Kapil Sibal's position. Though

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-22 Thread Bishakha Datta
ones, surely much more experienced in india than we are? rupert On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 04:08, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Hari, Tinu, and Theo, Thank you for your heartfelt emails; all of them made me think, and want to take this conversation forward. One

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-16 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Dear Bishakha, I apologize for intruding in this discussion again as someone who has little knowledge about India and the local situation. Your reply made me happy - it broadened the conversation beyond borders, it

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-12 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, This thread has brought up several points of interest to Wikimedia India. First let me take this opportunity to thank the Foundation Grants team for all the help for our bootstrapping work, be it Legal

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: The initial idea, if I understood it correctly, was to establish another non-profit body within India, for a period of three to five years to execute specific (and large-scale) programmes. As of now, the WIPT

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread Bishakha Datta
This thread started out with questions about the legal and practical differences between chapter and trust, but has veered much more into the terrain of funding and money. In addition, there have been numerous emails on bank accounts, grants, fellowships and what not. I'm glad we're talking

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-10 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Can you elaborate on the legal and practical differences between the new India Trust and the India Chapter? Dear Liam, Since I run a non-profit in India in my other life, I'll pitch in on one part of this: the legal

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.comwrote: The problem is that what is usually called the Board on this list is not a single entity. It is actually a group of persons. And right now, the situation is that there is no real agreement within the Board about

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: If you are right that the board is split on this (and I expect you are), then what seems to be happening is that they can't make a decision so they are telling the staff to make it for them. That is really not the

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-10-01 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Hiya Bishakha On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: I have said, it is a matter of perspective how you view them. But if we go by the assumption that editorial judgement is a separate thing,

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-10-01 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: If you want to make a valid counterargument, say that you are worried that some censorious ISPs and countries might use our category definitions as a starting point for a bolt-on censorship system that restricts access

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Up to now, all females from US (four of them) are in favor of filter (though, Sarah just tactically) and the only one not from US (Brazil/Portugal) is against. Hope we're not going to call this a poll. :) Cheers Bishakha

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: (not responding to anyone in particular) I'm one of the people who tried to participate in the discussion without taking a strong standpoint (intentionally - because I'm quite nuanced on the issue, and open for good

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Hoping for a constructive discussion and more data on what our 'readers' actually want and/or need... Also, while we don't have reader data, we do have more than 20,000 answers to the referendum or survey or whatever

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 16:24, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Milos, I believe this is exactly the kind of post that Sue was talking about in her blog. It is aggressive, it is alienating, and it is intimidating to

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Bishakha, call it editorial-content, call it censorship or any other euphemism - at the heart of it, it is deciding what someone gets to see and what not. Theo: they are different things, and given the premium on accuracy

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-08-26 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:45 AM, David Goodman dgge...@gmail.com wrote: I want to ask you something else. It's been suggested several times at various places that the present resolution is justified as a compromise to prevent a considerably more repressive form of censorship. This implies

Re: [Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

2011-06-25 Thread Bishakha Datta
I posted this on the India list (many people are not subscribed to foundation-l) - forwarding this question which just popped up. Bishakha -- Forwarded message -- From: Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com Date: Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l]

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote: But going forward, the idea that a stranger can ride into town and instantly lead a global movement-- that's not gonna be sustainable, I don't think. This central thought resonated so strongly with me that I had to

Re: [Foundation-l] New members of Language committee

2011-02-28 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:48 AM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad to announce that Language committee is stronger for three new members. By the time of getting their applications, the list is:

Re: [Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

2011-02-20 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: As I read the roster of the people who may attend, I am amazed at their qualifications. All people are involved in their Wikipediashttp://wikipedia.org/in the Incubator

Re: [Foundation-l] Hindi has three genders that I know of

2011-02-14 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: To top it off, Hindi has a form for inanimate objects. Some Indian languages have genders for nouns, others don't. Hindi is one of those that has two genders: feminine and masculine nouns [1], including for

Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow

2011-01-21 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:21 PM, whothis whoth...@gmail.com wrote: I assume you probably had some say in selecting the current Board Member from India since you announced his appointment Even though this is tangential to the main discussion, let me explain the process through which I was

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco's interview

2010-08-04 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: A translation can be found here: http://it.wikinews.org/wiki/Intervista_a_Umberto_Eco/Traduzione It's a lovely interview, Ilario. Congratulations :-) It's very interesting - and very useful. Just forwarded it to

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to a new board member

2010-04-06 Thread Bishakha Datta
. Greetings warmly from Wikiquote, On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Michael and Ting. Look forward to this new adventure, to becoming part of the community - and to meeting up soon. Yes, I did wonder whether you'll had noticed the POV

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to a new board member

2010-04-05 Thread Bishakha Datta
and looking forward to meet you soon in person. Ting Michael Snow wrote: As many of you know, we have had one vacant seat left on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees for the board to appoint. We have now filled that seat by appointing Bishakha Datta, a journalist, filmmaker