Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:47:45 +0200, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Samuel Klein, 03/04/2012 06:40: - a global list of areas needing free knowledge, and how far we are as a society towards reaching that goal We had started a stub table about this:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-21 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
If anyone wants to help work on these template-related issues, Maryana and I are still in the midst of work on this in a couple wikis... I don't want to flood the thread with a report on its status, but let me know if you want to join in our not-so-secret effort to make the current user talk

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-21 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
This strikes me as a very oddly articulated concern about a crowd-sourcing project. The basic premise underlying the whole model is increasing the quantity of contributors increases the quality of the content. Is this really disputed? BirgitteSB I am not sure whether I want to dispute this

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Motivations to Contribute to Wikipedia

2012-03-19 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Hi James, actually, I am pretty sure we did discuss the procedure which requires endorsement (we did not call it approval), either at the extraordinary meeting in December (related to the survey banner story) or in the RCom mailing list in the thread related to the same story. And this is indeed

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:54:48 +, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it is I'm remembering? No, I think there were only like three big universal

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print encyclopedias as a kid? Was a love of print encyclopedias part of your motivation or interest in

Re: [Foundation-l] Pre-wikis vs. maturing Wikipedia: taking away dedicated editors?

2012-03-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:10:17 +, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 March 2012 07:23, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I'm taking a hint from Clay Shirky's books here: What most people would consider high quality published sources - in this case, by railway companies,

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Andreas: I think http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2012-March/072463.html is one of my favorite posts to foundation-l ever. I'll go add these examples to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Controversial_content/Problems now. MZMcBride I just suggested to rename the file

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Partly, as I said, wanting to represent the board consensus. Partly because things were so very uncivil in the heat of it. I got called (among other things) an ugly American, a prude, freedom-hating, and a poor representative of my profession. I just didn't feel like dignifying any of that

Re: [Foundation-l] Anti-ACTA protest tomorrow in Belgrade and blackout of Serbian Wikipedia

2012-02-24 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:51:13 -0500, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote: It's really unfortunate that blacking out Wikimedia projects is becoming an accepted method of protest. Maybe we should start keeping track of how often different projects are blacked out, and for what purpose.

Re: [Foundation-l] English Wikipedia considering declaring open-season on works from countries lacking US copyright relations

2012-02-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:00:50 -0800, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: Short version: ... I'm raising the issue here, because I know many people on foundation-l care about issues surrounding copyright and reuse, and a change like this could set a precedent for what we ultimately do on the

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:07:15 +0100, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't comment Jan-Bart's wish, but I have comparable position toward usage of particular words: If email in my inbox begins with Dear Milos (especially in Serbian) by a person not so close to me, I would treat it

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:18:20 +0530, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Am I the one person feeling that the way this debate is going in a stupid direction that is totally irrelevant to the scope of this list ? I thought we were to discuss Movement roles letter, Feb 2012 . Just a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Right to be Forgotten

2012-02-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:25:56 -0700 (MST), Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: I think the biggest problems might involve users who have been trashed for one reason or another, justified or not. Fred My understanding is that the legislation is not so much about users (which we can

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Florence, I think you gave a great description of the process, and I agree that we should aim at the degree of transparency achieved in it. Actually, if I would be in charge of setting such a review panel, this is close to how I would do it. However, I also have similar personal experience. I am

Re: [Foundation-l] Community Advisory Board / Volunteer Council

2012-02-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Since I obviously think it was a good suggestion, I think it is good to provide a link http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikicouncil/Resolution Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:54:35 +0100, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: While reading the detailed Legal and Community

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
As in... Michael Snow ? Who is a fabulous guy, ran in community election, and was turned down ? Florence Domas? I do not think we respect him less because of that. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I think it makes sense to get board members selected by the community and board members selected by chapters because the focus is different. I'd love to see members selected by the community being active editors, involved on a regular basis on the project with editorial and soft

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
*It is difficult to get involved in chapters when, like me, you live in Africa, and the only approved chapter for the entire continent is 8,000 kilometres away.* Create one in your country! :D That is basicaly what we are doing in IberoCoop - help groups from all over Latin World with

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
My conclusion was that for even relatively big languages like Catalan it is impossible to get representation in community elections unless you start writing in English Wikipedia. Well, if I remember correctly, at some point we elected an Italian board member in the community elections. (I

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-01 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Heh, indeed. Whether the candidates are public outside the chapters or not, if you are not ok with your real name being plastered all over the place (fame! infamy! occasional random emails!) then being on the board is probably not for you. -- phoebe I would even say that for the chapter

Re: [Foundation-l] Facebook Group re pornography on Wikipedia

2012-02-01 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 07:35:10 +, Andreas K. jayen...@gmail.com wrote: A Wikimedian has just started a Facebook page Stop pornography on Wikipedia http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-pornography-on-Wikipedia/307245972661745 If I read it correct, she opened a Facebook group since, as she

[Foundation-l] POV in Chechen Wikipedia

2012-01-27 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I opened a RFC request on Meta, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/POV_in_Chechen_Wikipedia In my view, this is a situation similar to the one in Acehnese Wikipedia, which we had recently - when a group of users basically hijack a WMF project and start to promote goals

Re: [Foundation-l] POV in Chechen Wikipedia

2012-01-27 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:58:02 +0100, Thomas Goldammer tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Hoi, Thanks for bringing this up, Yaroslav. If it turns out to be a really solid claim, we would need someone neutral with language competence to figure out what is going on there... Any ideas? I have a retired

Re: [Foundation-l] POV in Chechen Wikipedia

2012-01-27 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:23:22 +0100, Thomas Goldammer tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Hm, I think closing it is no option we should really consider. Maybe we must try to share apart those who have understood the principles and abide by them and those who don't and - well - remove sysop rights of

Re: [Foundation-l] POV in Chechen Wikipedia

2012-01-27 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:14:40 +0800, Benjamin Chen cnchenmi...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't read the RFC carefully, but since it is opened, so I informed Sasan700 and Dagger on their talk page. Also emailed Sasan700. Best regards, Benjamin Chen / User:Bencmq Great, thanks, Benjamin.

Re: [Foundation-l] mobile website

2012-01-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:07:42 +0200, Zugravu Gheorghe zugravu.gheor...@gmail.com wrote: bringing my 5 cents: think that mobile users are not the one privileged here, since anyone can surf on m.wp. Guess that limited usability of m.wp compensate 100% lack of normanl WP. (following my friends post

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikipedia is considering going dark to protest SOPA and PIPA

2012-01-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:58:41 +, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: I think the concern will be dependent on whether Commons is covered in the blackout (and whether the 'full' shutdown goes ahead or the 'pop-up plus banners' that seems to be getting most traction on enwiki). I'm seeing

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikipedia is considering going dark to protest SOPA and PIPA

2012-01-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I would not spend time, energy and money on a service that can block my contents without even warning and/or asking me. Especially if I'm a public service, which is often the case for GLAMs. -- Bastien ... Temporarily disabling access in protest is not the same as blocking my

Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

2012-01-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Actually, do we have somewhere a concise page with a list of say ten most urgent needs we need money for? Smth a banner can link to? Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Yes and I'm British. The reality is that museums and libraries close all the time for various reasons. There isn't much we can do about it. Well, just in this case a GLAM/GLAM-like initiative could help enormously, taking the museum expositions online. The problem is that AFAIR we do not have

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:13:58 +0100, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Incubator yearly report for 2011

2011-12-31 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:16:57 +0100, MF-Warburg mfwarb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Incubator we have in this year for the first time compiled an end-of-the-year review in order to inform people about what is going on on Incubator / new wikis. Great, thanks for the interesting report and to

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 -- global?

2011-12-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:28:13 +0100, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi; Yes, please, go global. We can use the sitenotice (only for registered users) to ask for help in every country. Or only those countries with a chapter are allowed? Regards, emijrp All countries are eligible, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation's 2010-11 Annual Report

2011-12-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
How were those languages chosen? I can't see any (clear) criterion being used. I've already asked the same question for the Wikimedia highlights (and something else) and I didn't get any answer; given that you're using the same languages for eveything, it would be nice to explain where

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation's 2010-11 Annual Report

2011-12-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
May be just because they did not have anybody to translate to other languages, as the composition of Transcom suggests? Cheers Yaroslav To correct myself, it just means that nobody did the translations https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Highlights,_September_2011 The

Re: [Foundation-l] New link for SOPA - fantastic

2011-12-15 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:04:56 -0800, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: Chairman Issa's office sent me this link... live streaming and markup of the SOPA bill: http://keepthewebopen.com/sopa ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation,

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

2011-12-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Personally, my rule of thumb is to give people 24 hours. Fair's fair: people don't watch the wiki all day, they might live in a different time zone, etc. Rcom have exceeded that limit and they still haven't posted on-wiki (which is the place where the people are who actually have a say).

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

2011-12-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
With the greatest of respect.. it shouldn't need the whole of RCOM, no statement is needed. Just for someone to go on-wiki and answer queries (or if nothing else say - sorry we need to look into this, bear with us). The complaint Kim is making is that no one has done this. Tom Well, I

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

2011-12-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I've already done some of that for you, together with Jerome. :-) A new subsection here would work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Harvard.2FScience_Po_Adverts And what we really need right now is 1 (preferably 2) rcom members who

Re: [Foundation-l] Is a research banner advertising of the evil sort?

2011-12-09 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
And again, that was not a on-wiki consensus: That was an action who started with a staff of WMF, discussed privately, put on air, discussed in a private mailing list, and took off. When I need to do anything on en.wiki I follow en.wiki, until there, don't try to imposse them to me. We

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:01:45 +, Andreas K. jayen...@gmail.com wrote: There was a lengthy discussion recently on en:WP at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates#FAC_spends_too_much_time_on_trivial_topics about the fact that many featured articles –

Re: [Foundation-l] Error message

2011-11-29 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Scattered pieces of the puzzle globe. +1 I like it; a good image says a thousands words in every language. To me it looks like the Earth after a nuclear attack. I assume this is not the idea. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

2011-11-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
This is completely understandable. I recently looked at a 13-page article in the Bullletin of the Pan American Union for 1933 on Hipólito Unánue. Our stub article shows him as president of Peru in 1825-6. He wasn't. I had to ask myself how much time am I prepared to use for sorting this

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

2011-11-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Ray, does the article say he was not the President of the Government Council? I found a link on that and added it to the article, but the reference, how should I put it, does not look to me as an ultimately to most authoritative source. I will search more, but if you have the material at hand

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-11-01 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:56:48 +, Fae f...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Efficiency has never been a part of Wikipedia's mission That's a slightly odd interpretation, http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement specifically includes effective dissemination of content. Though the word

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:27:30 +0200, Nickanc Wikipedia nickanc.w...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, Wikilove is something so important about wikipedia's ethics and behaviour that shall be in every wiki. IMHO. I absolutely disagree. Wikipedia ethics and behavior encourage thanking the contributors, but it

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
So far my only experience with extension:wikilove is having a new user prefer it to just editing my talk page, and so over the course of a mundane conversation about sourcing I earned myself two civility barnstars and three trophies. Hooray! One take away from this experience of

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:15:52 +0200, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@gmx.net wrote: Some editors just want to edit articles and regard the social and meta dimensions of the project as annoying distractions, while other editors see those as the main attractions. Some prefer You are nice., others

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
We're not just talking about a tool, but a revolution in the way of communicative and collaborative Wikipedia. It is a way to make Wikipedia a family environment, not a court or an academy of letters. We need that. Wikipedia really needs that at all. _ MateusNobre

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
When I spoke ''family'' I wanted to say we need a more likable system of communication. We need a real collaborative method, which not only fit for the editions, but for the treatment of users too. We're a big family working for a common objective: a world in which every single human being

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

2011-10-26 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:04:23 +0100, Oliver Keyes scire.fac...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys So, on Thursday we're going to be holding an Office Hours session on IRC to discuss the Article Feedback Tool and what we're planning to do with it - namely, scrapping it and replacing it with an entirely

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

2011-10-26 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:33:30 +0100, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Can we make sure that any new generation Article Feedback tool is properly tested, and that testing includes: 1. Implementing it on a random group of articles and comparing them with a

Re: [Foundation-l] New Version of PROTECT IP Bill May Target Legal Sites

2011-10-26 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:02:19 +0200, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: If so, goodbye wiki, as well. At least in US. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/26/0451240/new-version-of-protect-ip-bill-may-target-legal-sites Well, the servers still could be moved to Europe. Cheers Yaroslav

Re: [Foundation-l] Public domain Mickey Mouse. At last.

2011-10-22 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:11:53 -0700, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: This is pretty damn cool. I see that pretty much every project except nl wikipedia could now use this illustration... What is the problem with the Dutch Wikipedia? From what I see, the file is in use there.

Re: [Foundation-l] IMDb sued for revealing actresses age

2011-10-19 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:40:18 +0100, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15360864 I'm not sure of the details of this case, but it looks like it would be worth us keeping an eye on it since it could potentially have repercussions for us.

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I was following the discussion without ever giving my own opinion, and my impression is that we are going nowhere. Imagine we make another poll, properly prepared, and the poll shows, say, that 65% support the filter and 35% oppose. So what? Concluding then then the community rejecting the filter

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:37:05 +0200, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 01:44:09PM +0400, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: I was following the discussion without ever giving my own opinion, and my impression is that we are going nowhere. I think what should come

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I must confess I completely fail to understand how the discussions in this thread, especially the last several dozens or so posts, advance our mission. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] On curiosity, cats and scapegoats

2011-09-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
It would be systemic bias rather than a NPOV problem as such. - d. Right, but we do have this systemic bias already in place: in ALL our projects, the articles on localities in Sweden are longer and better written (and better illustrated) than the articles on localities in Burkina Faso.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Loves Monuments (Was: On curiosity, cats and scapegoats)

2011-09-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
@Yaroslav: the main reason to focus on Europe this year was the large concentration, intergovernmental support (European Commission Council of Europe) and lack of resources (mainly man power). If there are next year enough people to carry on the idea, I'm sure we can include more countries,

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Loves Monuments (Was: On curiosity, cats and scapegoats)

2011-09-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Thanks for the clarification - I understand better what you mean now. We indeed chose explicitely only to organize WLM in countries where there could be an effort to make the necessary preperations (preparing monument lists that are useful for non-Wikipedians, having a national jury and

Re: [Foundation-l] On curiosity, cats and scapegoats

2011-09-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:51:33 +0900, KIZU Naoko aph...@gmail.com wrote: Off topic alert: I haven't given a closer look to your main topic, Milos, so I cannot give a responsible statement in any way. But your reference to Wiki Loves Monuments, while I agree it's heavily Europe-focused, I

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Summary of findings from WMF Summer of Research program now available

2011-09-08 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:45:41 -0700, R.Stuart Geiger sgei...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the interest, John! I put the list of the top 250 up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Most_wanted_articles -- but I didn't exactly publicize it. I guess this is my chance to do so now! Also, a

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
While I agree this isn't a good situation to be in, I'm not sure what Wikipedia does review In The News submissions before they go on the homepage. Wikinews articles get syndicated out to Google News and posted on Twitter, Facebook and other social media sites. There's something of a

Re: [Foundation-l] editor survey report

2011-08-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Are you counting everyone? People from places with Chapters and without chapters? Because that would be a bit strange if someone answer that they know there is a chapter in a country that does not have one. But they had an option to answer that they know there is no chapter in their country,

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of Language Contact Persons

2011-08-16 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Let's do it! What's the best way to encourage embassies, especially on small projects that may have never had them before? Obviously, to let a message in a relevant language (which is expected to be understood by many of the users) on the village pump of the corresponding project. The

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of Language Contact Persons

2011-08-16 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:05:37 +0200, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, The name is not so important, of course, but I think that the old Ambassador is a little bit a big word. Why do the ambassadors not work? Because they don't feel responsible, if they can simply put

Re: [Foundation-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-15 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
So you're worried about a policy change? What sort of policy change specifically would necessitate forking the project? Is there any such policy change which could plausibly be implemented by the Foundation while it remains a charity? Adding ads (for instance, Google ads) to the Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of Language Contact Persons

2011-08-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
== New entities?== James Forrester and his group (sorry, I don't remember who was the official primus inter pares) presented in/before Haifa a list of new kinds of Wikimedia entities: * Chapters not based on national boundaries, but subjects such as railways, art, ethnic cultures,

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of Language Contact Persons

2011-08-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:43:13 +0400, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: == New entities?== James Forrester and his group (sorry, I don't remember who was the official primus inter pares) presented in/before Haifa a list of new kinds of Wikimedia entities: * Chapters not based

Re: [Foundation-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:55:47 +0100, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: [posted to foundation-l and wikitech-l, thread fork of a discussion elsewhere] THESIS: Our inadvertent monopoly is *bad*. We need to make it easy to fork the projects, so as to preserve them. This is the single

Re: [Foundation-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:32:43 +0100, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 August 2011 13:07, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I do agree that the monopoly, at least in this case, is a bad thing, but I do not see why stimulating creation of the forks would be the best way

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Hmm, it'd be a neat extension for Commons. I don't think like or +1 should be used, as they're not sufficiently wiki. But something that expresses the same sentiment, that allows users to express approval of good photos (similar to Flickr), could be cool. MZMcBride Is the talk page not

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Wow, this is a gross misrepresentation of the reality. While Foundation staff has provided an invaluable support to make the fundraiser a success, it probably wouldn't have been such a success hadn't there been dozens of volunteers, among which _many_ chapter board members and simple

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:11:49 -0500, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: And just to add to the argument, the projects are divided by language, and not by jurisdiction. Whereas in many cases it may be unimportant (for instance, we can safely assume that most of the activbities of the Swedish chapter

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
It is true however that many chapters do important work for the local projects, and serve their local needs in the sense of activities, press contacts and fundraising in a more effective way (less culturally challanging, more sensitive to what works locally and better in touch with other

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
The Wiki page: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011 The Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/WikiLovesMonuments And the Website: http://wikilovesmonuments.eu But as you can see, is not only the Dutch people. _ *Béria Lima*

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-08 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Nor does off-wiki collaboration require that a formal entity be in existence. Off-wiki activities -- whether social meetups or more formal outreach efforts to GLAM institutions and elsewhere -- are no less effective for being organized by loose groups of interested participants. So long as

Re: [Foundation-l] Board of Trustees activity report - May-June 2011

2011-08-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Meta link: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_Report,_May-June_2011 -- phoebe Thanks for the link, Phoebe. Since none of the meta pages linked to this page, I created http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_Reports which I hope will be updated on a regular basis by adding new reports.

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2011-08-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:41:28 -0400, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it is, and it's an important one. Several of us had already been working on a plan for the second trial, and those of us discussing had widely agreed that it would be much more likely to be successful if more of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2011-08-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:06:10 -0500, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Pending_changes/Request_for_Comment_February_2011oldid=428618051#Closure I think I have seen this one, but I will have a closer look. Thanks for

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2011-08-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
It's the problem of the English Wikipedia not knowing what it wanted aside from knowing it wanted something. Some wanted stable revisions (an approved form of an article), others wanted protection but editable, others wanted enhanced review of content before publishing, etc. Pending

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
CAKO2H7_x3rCaWe1LAskwF8pvMNkqmL=3apvzwsr5_x4p1g5...@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: edff56535af98f2a767e4cf65b15d...@mccme.ru X-Sender: pute...@mccme.ru User-Agent: Webmail/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:28:31 +0100, Thomas Morton

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:49:58 -0600 (MDT), Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: We should do this before some aggressive outfit like Wikinfo jumps in... It wouldn't be an anyone can edit wiki. Only authorized student accounts could edit. It would be a teaching tool. Fred To do this is

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

2011-07-01 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
So I'd like to ask in which way we keep and assure our community as multilingual? Honestly I have been thinking this for years seriously. Even on meta, it was not once I was accused just because I left a note in Japanese - when I had a hardship to express my opinion enough in English. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

2011-07-01 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Milosh, thanks for your work. Just to correct: Moksha, Erzya, Yakut (=Sakha), Komi-Zyrian (=Komi) and Lak all have Wikipedias (though admittedly for Lak I am the only active contributor). Adyge is almost identical to Kabardino-Circassian, and Adyge speakers probably will never have their own

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

2011-06-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Of course, that could either help or hinder, with no way to know for sure in advance; perhaps encouraging more social interaction would exacerbate and personalize the disputes and conflicts that drive people away. From my perspective, this is exactly what is happening. Too many people want

Re: [Foundation-l] About the low-hanging fruit

2011-06-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
You have an expert knowledge in this topic, namely the knowledge of Russian language. Most of English Wikipedia editors don't. ... Most unilingual English editors are surprised by the vast quantity of low hanging fruit. Out of curiosity at one time I looked up the fairly common Spanish

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

2011-06-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:06:14 +0300, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hallo, I just received an email (see below) that invites me to participate in the elections. There are several technical issues with it: I also got one, even though one of my accounts (to which is

Re: [Foundation-l] Elections email

2011-06-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I also got one, even though one of my accounts (to which is was sent) is globally blocked, and another one has an insufficient number of edits and both are thus ineligible to vote. I only got the e-mail in English, but I assume this is because I use English interface in all projects. There

Re: [Foundation-l] About the low hanging fruit

2011-06-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:17:18 +0100, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't describe a short article as hardly useful for creation I created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Pass,_California only three years and already the current article is five times the size

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

2011-06-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:22 -0700, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: This doesn't have to be complicated. How about 3 strikes, you're out? Get banned from 3 projects and you automatically qualify for a global ban. There's no sense in wasting hundreds of manhours trying to coordinate

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

2011-06-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:28:28 -0400, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: I second everything that Risker has said. I am not convinced that further public discussion of this situation is really going to do anything other than feed Poetlister's ego, and create exactly the bitterness and

[Foundation-l] About the low-hanging fruit

2011-06-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
This is an essay. May be someone can find it useful. For a number of reasons which are not appropriate to address here, three weeks ago I voluntarily left Russian Wikipedia, which used to be my home wiki for four years, and decided to turn to low-key activity in the articles in English

Re: [Foundation-l] About the low-hanging fruit

2011-06-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
You are interested in this topic; many users (or most, I am afraid) are not. You have an expert knowledge in this topic, namely the knowledge of Russian language. Most of English Wikipedia editors don't. There is a plenty of low-hanging fruits in classical music articles (especially in

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

2011-06-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I too would like to see the development of a process for global banning of users who have created serious problems on either the global or the multiple-project level. Risker/Anne I see your reasoning, but I also see at least two serious deficiencies: 1) Some projects explicitly rejected

Re: [Foundation-l] Informing BLP subjects

2011-05-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Mon, 23 May 2011 16:55:49 +0200, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 16:46, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Re the idea of informing BLP subjects that we have a biography on them. Most LPs would read such email as a request for editing,

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

2011-05-22 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sun, 22 May 2011 14:08:14 +0200, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/2011 01:22 PM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans who don't have Wikipedia in any language they speak reasonably well (understanding very well that

Re: [Foundation-l] Marjon Bakker working for Wikimedia Nederland

2011-04-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Dear friends, Today is Marjon Bakker's first day in the office of the Dutch chapter, our first paid coworker in Utrecht. For the next six months she will help us with the professionalisation and with building up the office of Wikimedia Nederland. The communication specialist Marjon Bakker

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