Yes here now.
On Saturday, July 25, 2009, Samuel Klein wrote:
> Thanks for sharing that, fred. It is interesting indeed! Are you going to
> be in nyc by any chance this wknd?
>
> samuel klein. �...@laptop.org. +1 617 529 4266
>
> On Jul 23, 2009 3:06 PM, "Fred Benenson" wrote:
>
> Hi There,
>
Thanks for sharing that, fred. It is interesting indeed! Are you going to
be in nyc by any chance this wknd?
samuel klein. s...@laptop.org. +1 617 529 4266
On Jul 23, 2009 3:06 PM, "Fred Benenson" wrote:
Hi There,
I"m a long time lurker on this list but work for Creative Commons and am a
s
2009/7/23 Fred Benenson :
> Hi There,
> I"m a long time lurker on this list but work for Creative Commons and am a
> semi-pro photog in my spare time. I just wrote a post about "the reality" of
> pro photography on Wikipedia:
>
> http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/16017
>
Ops, sorry! I didn'
The Reality of Professional Photography on Wikipedia, by Fred Benenson
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/16017
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Hi There,
I"m a long time lurker on this list but work for Creative Commons and am a
semi-pro photog in my spare time. I just wrote a post about "the reality" of
pro photography on Wikipedia:
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/16017
Figured you all would find it interesting!
Best,
Fred
> That's a great idea. Having a prominent link to "recently uploaded
> images"
> (I'm thinking of something like [[Special:NewFiles]] that shows more than
> 50
> entries on a page with rc-style metadata, combined from the local wiki +
> commons) next to "recent changes" on wikipedia would make qui
Peter Gervai wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 21:05, wrote:
>> Peter Gervai wrote:
>>
>>> Usually I do not get it why people choose NC licenses all the time
>>> while there's usually a low probability to actually _lose_ money by
>>> making it public.
>>>
>> This may come as a shock to you but its
Hoi,
I was at the Tropenmuseum the other day .. they said that this "commercial"
notion is old hat.. Sharing collections, engaging the public is what ensures
the future of museums. So I am hopeful that the Tropenmuseum is right and
will prove to be so. The thing is they do not need to be right ever
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 21:05, wrote:
> Peter Gervai wrote:
>
>> Usually I do not get it why people choose NC licenses all the time
>> while there's usually a low probability to actually _lose_ money by
>> making it public.
>>
>
> This may come as a shock to you but its not about money. When I tak
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:02 PM, wrote:
> Ray Saintonge wrote:
>> wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>> David Gerard wrote:
>>>
Explaining this to professional content creators and media companies
leads to exploding heads. Pointing out that giving it all away has
made Wikipedia a
Ray Saintonge wrote:
> wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
>> David Gerard wrote:
>>
>>> Explaining this to professional content creators and media companies
>>> leads to exploding heads. Pointing out that giving it all away has
>>> made Wikipedia a top-ten website and must be doing all right fr
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> ...a properly viral licence will constrain the commercial
> publisher with the requirement that any use by him will also render his
> new context for that photograph just as available for free use as the
> photograph itself.
>
But our nomina
wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
> David Gerard wrote:
>
>> Explaining this to professional content creators and media companies
>> leads to exploding heads. Pointing out that giving it all away has
>> made Wikipedia a top-ten website and must be doing all right from it
>> isn't enough to con
David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/7/21 :
>
>> If you have a personal use, want to illustrating an article or blog that
>> is not Adsense rich, have an academic use, or a small scale fundraising
>> non-profit fine take what you want. If on the other hand you are share
>> cropping with Google Ads, using t
2009/7/21 :
> If you have a personal use, want to illustrating an article or blog that
> is not Adsense rich, have an academic use, or a small scale fundraising
> non-profit fine take what you want. If on the other hand you are share
> cropping with Google Ads, using the images to tart up an othe
Hoi.
True but not in the context of the WMF.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/7/21
> Peter Gervai wrote:
> >
>
> > Usually I do not get it why people choose NC licenses all the time
> > while there's usually a low probability to actually _lose_ money by
> > making it public.
> >
>
> This may come as
Peter Gervai wrote:
>
> Usually I do not get it why people choose NC licenses all the time
> while there's usually a low probability to actually _lose_ money by
> making it public.
>
This may come as a shock to you but its not about money. When I take
photographs it is in my free time, and o
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Peter Gervai wrote:
> So it seems just what I have guessed: the reporter misinterpreting someone.
>
The slashdot summary includes the choice quotes that are a bit out of
context, but in the original article it starts off the section with
Avenaim by noting his cont
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Peter Gervai wrote:
> And in my opinion uploading a reduced resolution image, like 1-5
> Megapixels is completely good and acceptable for our mission. These
> are already quite useful resolutions, while they still aren't fit for
> mainstream media. (Of course if p
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
> Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> > it to Commons, or make it insufficiently; 2) why they do not make it ot
> > the articles. I tried to make the point in the recent thread on the
> > purpose of Commons, but somehow it did not draw enough atte
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 17:43, Sage Ross wrote:
> Hold up! This is User:Jerry Avenaim, and he has contributed some of
> his low-resolution photographs, and even a higher-resolution one of
> Mark Marmon that is a Featured Picture on en-wiki.
Thanks for the info, for I was able to actually check t
Hoi,
It is great to find issues with MediaWiki. The solution is often not obvious
and, there are often solutions available, some of these solutions do not
scale and some of the solutions are not invented here.David Shankbone is one
of the solutions for our lack of high profile people. David does im
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Peter Gervai wrote:
>> Ultimately the issue for professional photographers who might want to
>> donate their work is copyright. 'To me the problem is the Wikipedia
>> rule of public use,' says Jerry Avenaim, a celebrity photographer. 'If
>> they truly wanted to elev
Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> it to Commons, or make it insufficiently; 2) why they do not make it ot
> the articles. I tried to make the point in the recent thread on the
> purpose of Commons, but somehow it did not draw enough attention.
> Realistically, if somebody uploaded a good picture (not ne
I think there ate two issues here, not one, even though all the replies
concentrate on just one issue: 1) why (good quality) pictues do not make
it to Commons, or make it insufficiently; 2) why they do not make it ot
the articles. I tried to make the point in the recent thread on the
purpose of Com
> Ultimately the issue for professional photographers who might want to
> donate their work is copyright. 'To me the problem is the Wikipedia
> rule of public use,' says Jerry Avenaim, a celebrity photographer. 'If
> they truly wanted to elevate the image on the site, they should allow
> photograph
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Stephen Bain wrote:
>> Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad
> ...
>> 'To me the problem is the Wikipedia
>> rule of public use,' says Jerry Avenaim, a celebrity photographer. 'If
>> they truly wanted to elevate the image on the site, they should allow
>> photogra
2009/7/20 Stephen Bain :
>> 'To me the problem is the Wikipedia
>> rule of public use,' says Jerry Avenaim, a celebrity photographer. 'If
>> they truly wanted to elevate the image on the site, they should allow
>> photographers to maintain the copyright.'"
> We should definitely take advice from
Hello,
I think the writer should have looked on Commons longer and he would have
find beautifull images.
We work on Wikimedia with a lot of people doing the best the can, and the
message read above is disrespectfull to our volunteers. Nobody start with
perfect photo's, even the best photographer
Hello,
I think the writer should have looked on Commons longer and he would have
find beautifull images.
We work on Wikimedia with a lot of people doing the best the can, and the
message read above is disrespectfull to our volunteers. Nobody start with
perfect photo's, even the best photographer
> Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad
...
> 'To me the problem is the Wikipedia
> rule of public use,' says Jerry Avenaim, a celebrity photographer. 'If
> they truly wanted to elevate the image on the site, they should allow
> photographers to maintain the copyright.'"
We should definitely take
2009/7/20 K. Peachey
> Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad
> ---
> Recent photographs on Wikipedia are almost
> exclusively the work of amateurs who don't mind giving away their
> work. 'Amateur may be too kind a word; their photos te
Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad
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Wikipedia which in theory are improved, fact checked, footnoted, and
generally enhanced over time, the photos that go with Wi
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