Samuel Klein wrote:
Every national and regional library should have a local copy of Wikimedia.
With a full history dump?
;-)
Yours,
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
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Now if we only had some kind of mobile device which could be given to such
institutions containing a copy! :P.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com
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Samuel Klein wrote:
Every national and regional library should have a local copy of
Wikimedia.
I have gone trough the report, and immediately noted the extremely strong
growth of the foundation in terms of personal (Nearly doubling the amount
two years in a row). Generally i am not a fan of such fast growth as it
often leads to bloating; but seeing the the rest of the plan looks fine i
Hiya -
I asked Danese, who is currently buried under about 20 pounds of stuff
after coming back from Wikimania, to further describe the stakeholder
database. Her response is:
Sue has a vision for a single master database that tracks our
interactions with movement participants. It is
On 15 July 2010 22:35, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hiya -
I asked Danese, who is currently buried under about 20 pounds of stuff
after coming back from Wikimania, to further describe the stakeholder
database. Her response is:
Sue has a vision for a single master
I had understood that another use-case for such a database is when an
external organisation (e.g. a local library in some city where there
is no
Chapter presence) asks for a local Wikimedian to come and give a
presentation or advice on how to get involved. Such a database
(IIRC) should
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Philippe Beaudette
pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure. There are about a bajillion use cases for it. :)
pb
conspiracy The foundation just likes to spy on us ;) dirt for later on if
we won't protect that page! /conspiracy
James [redacted for
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:31 PM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Philippe Beaudette
pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure. There are about a bajillion use cases for it. :)
pb
conspiracy The foundation just likes to spy on us ;) dirt
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
When we are frugal and build reserves, this will be appreciated. When we build
reserves that have no immediate goals, we will lose acceptance as an
organisation
that actually needs the money.
I agree we should
Hoi,
One of the reasons, for many the only reason for giving a\t the annual
fundraising drive is exactly to provide money to maintain our
infrastructure. Take that away and you take away the reason to give. Once
people get it in their mind that we have reserves to pay for our
infrastructure, they
Hi Gerard,
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi,
One of the reasons, for many the only reason for giving a\t the annual
fundraising drive is exactly to provide money to maintain our
infrastructure. Take that away and you take away the reason to
Hoi,
I agree that donors are happy to provide to these other goals as well. The
issue is however that they go together with the essential goal of keeping
our infra structure running. Take away the essentials from the equation,
give the impression that there are plenty of reserves and the need can
Hello,
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the reasons, for many the only reason for giving a\t the annual
fundraising drive is exactly to provide money to maintain our
infrastructure. Take that away and you take away the reason to give.
Hi Samuel,
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Samuel J Klein s...@wikimedia.org wrote:
One can always keep increasing operational spending. Reserves or
long-term funds should grow in tandem with those increases --
otherwise as we come to rely on this new spending, there is additional
risk
Hoi,
I am afraid that a drive to have funding for the next fifty years will be
extremely counter productive. It is this kind of arguments that has turned
off many of the people who contribute to charities in the Netherlands. The
notion that we should have reserves for the next fifty years assumes
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
The endowment is not about just about funding, I think it is probably also
symbolic of endurance to many people.
There is a worry about the content remaining available in the long term. If
there is not an endowment to
On 3 July 2010 17:35, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
David Gerard writes:
http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/04/10/disaster-recovery-planning/
Can we reasonably say that everything else on the list there is a
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
For instance, a clear commitment to maintaining the physical operation
of the projects for the next 50 years, even if all sources of funding
were to dry up. Or a commitment to maintaining this with
infrastructure
On 3 July 2010 18:29, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Hm, well, I think this gets back to David Goodman's point, one which I agree
with.
Yes, the only absolute commitment the WMF has in the grand scheme of things
is to provide the physical resource to host the projects.
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
When Bomis was hosting it, it was just a handful of servers.
Volunteers wouldn't be able to fork the site and keep things going at
anywhere near the level they are at now - if the WMF doesn't have the
funds, neither
On 3 July 2010 18:53, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote:
If something of similar consequences as the kill switch [1] were
triggered against the WMF in USA, would it still be accessible for the
rest of the world?
The kill switch idea, as I understand it, is about killing the
internet entirely, not
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:06 AM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
We are secure because of the volunteers, not the funding. If the
foundation were to disappear, the project could continue. The only
funding actually necessary is for the physical operation of the
project.
While it seems
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:06 AM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
We are secure because of the volunteers, not the funding. If the
foundation were to disappear, the project could continue. The only
funding actually
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:58 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Who is WMF competing with?
User attention.
Sorry, misread who with what.
Presently, with top ~20 sites for user attention.
On 1 July 2010 10:37, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:58 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Who is WMF competing with?
User attention.
Sorry, misread who with what.
Presently,
We are not competing with any other web site, or organization, and
there is no reason for us to think of it that way. We are part of the
capitalist world only in the sense that our physical operations must
exist within it.
We are trying to build a particular project for a common purpose--not
to
On 1 July 2010 09:58, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Who is WMF competing with?
Hudong
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geni
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--- On Thu, 7/1/10, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
The basic reason why doing things by staff rather than
volunteers is
wrong is that it decreases one of the motivations for
volunteering--the knowledge that one can participate
significantly in
not just the work but the
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:58 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:06 AM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
We are secure because of the volunteers, not the funding. If the
foundation
Hudong comes maybe the nearest. And Hudong is doing a lot of
mobilization works in China. A few days ago there were rumours in
Chinese chatrooms about an expansion of Hudong direction Australia.
Greetings
Ting
geni wrote:
On 1 July 2010 09:58, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Who
Thanks Eugene! This is essentially what I would've written, had I gotten there
first. So thank you.
I will just add: everyone wants an endowment campaign -- the issue is not
whether to do it; the issue is when to do it. We're still developing our pool
of donors (especially the chapters, who
Thanks everyone for your comments thus far (and for the thank yous too :)).
As we progress through accomplishing the goals of the strategic plan, we
will have a better idea of what level our operating budget will need to
be to make everything happen and be sustainable. We will have done some
Thanks Veronique Eugene for your comprehensive thoughtful replies
re: this issue. It seems clear that an endowment (if there is ever one
developed) and good fundraising is not an either/or proposition.
There is also additional discussion going on about related topics on
this talk page:
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to
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To: susanpgard...@gmail.com, Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
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From: Veronique Kessler vkess...@wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to
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insight, David.
Marc Riddell
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--- On Wed, 6/30/10, Veronique Kessler vkess...@wikimedia.org wrote:
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