Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/3 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com: {{qif}} was being used massively, even if the majority of the community didn't know about it (or care). It supported their work and allowed them to do the things with templates that they needed in articles. I would argue these complex templates came

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-06 Thread geni
2009/7/6 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/3 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com: {{qif}} was being used massively, even if the majority of the community didn't know about it (or care). It supported their work and allowed them to do the things with templates that they needed in articles. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/6 geni geni...@gmail.com: Questionable. Since for fairly obvious reasons you can't let wikipedians execute arbitrary code through templates there is always going to be the problem of wikipedians useing workarounds that generate problematical code. ParserFunctions is already

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-06 Thread geni
2009/7/6 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/6 geni geni...@gmail.com: Questionable. Since for fairly obvious reasons you can't let wikipedians execute arbitrary code through templates there is always going to be the problem of wikipedians useing workarounds that generate problematical

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-06 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:29 AM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote: snip Getting back to the point attempts to highly optimize code to stay within whatever the new equivalent of [[Wikipedia:Template_limits]] would risk even a fairly clean language turning into something of a mess. Any reasonable

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-03 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: Sorry, where I said AbuseFilter I meant to say FlaggedRevisions. I'm not sure on how AbuseFilter came to be agreed on. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:59

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-03 Thread Brian
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Benjamin Lees emufarm...@gmail.comwrote: On which wiki do you mean, for FlaggedRevs? For the English Wikipedia, my understanding is that consensus was reached in favor of a limited trial

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Jennifer Riggs
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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Brian
Sorry, where I said AbuseFilter I meant to say FlaggedRevisions. I'm not sure on how AbuseFilter came to be agreed on. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Jennifer Riggs jri...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I'm curious. In your

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: snip I really like the ParserFunctions example. Enabled with hardly any discussion and now used 500,000 times on the English Wikipedia. It had a major effect on Wikipedia that made it much harder to use. And now we are stuck

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: snip I really like the ParserFunctions example. Enabled with hardly any discussion and now used 500,000 times on the English Wikipedia. It had a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Robert Rohderaro...@gmail.com wrote: (For the record, I'm referring to the earliest history of ParserFunctions.  I'm not sure about the history of #expr and some of the later bits.) #expr was present since the first commit (r13505).

[Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-01 Thread Brian
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: I'd be interested to see your positive, assume-good-faith list of suggestions. One of my favorite suggestions, from Erik, is that we use IdeaTorrent ( http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ ) in order to provide a single place