Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 12/04/2011 02:32: If WMF websites happened to be overtaken by Ask.com or some other website, it would be good to be forced to change the habit of how we describe them. If you use more generic language, the likelihood of needing to update that language later decreases. Yes, and my

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 11/04/2011 01:23: Or better yet, focus on something that's actually meaningful. Does it make a difference to anyone whether Wikipedia is the sixth most-visited website or the tenth? Yes. For instance, if you don't acknowledge that Facebook has now more visits than Wikipedia you

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-11 Thread MZMcBride
Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: MZMcBride, 11/04/2011 01:23: Or better yet, focus on something that's actually meaningful. Does it make a difference to anyone whether Wikipedia is the sixth most-visited website or the tenth? Yes. For instance, if you don't acknowledge that Facebook has now more

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread Orionist
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Milos Rancic wikime...@millosh.org wrote: * Alexa may be unreliable, mostly for smaller sites, but: ** Wikipedia is not small site, as well as top ten sites aren't. Bigger numbers give more relevant conclusions. ** It gives good clue of what the trends are. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread Sue Gardner
On 9 April 2011 01:14, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied between 6th and 8th place [1]. Repeating that it's on the 5th place says about us one or

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread MZMcBride
Sue Gardner wrote: On 9 April 2011 01:14, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied between 6th and 8th place [1]. Repeating that it's on the 5th place

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread geni
On 10 April 2011 23:20, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: As far as I understand this, that would mean that saying Wikipedia is the fifth most visited website is still completely wrong, as the comScore data is an aggregate of the various Wikimedia wikis. As the Director of Wikipedia, I would

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:20 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Sue Gardner wrote: On 9 April 2011 01:14, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread Theo10011
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:50 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Sue Gardner wrote: On 9 April 2011 01:14, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread MZMcBride
Theo10011 wrote: I don't think Sue said Wikipedia is the fifth most visited website. Its 'Wikimedia Foundation sites' in comScore data. I don't think you did your homework. From http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:2010/SueLetterC/en: We are the number five website in the world, with

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread MZMcBride
Samuel Klein wrote: On 9 April 2011 01:14, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied between 6th and 8th place [1]. comScore, Alexa, c use different

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread Theo10011
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:38 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Theo10011 wrote: I don't think Sue said Wikipedia is the fifth most visited website. Its 'Wikimedia Foundation sites' in comScore data. I don't think you did your homework. From

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-10 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/4/9 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied between 6th and 8th place [1]. WMF sites are the fifth popular web property in the world according to

[Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-09 Thread Milos Rancic
May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied between 6th and 8th place [1]. Repeating that it's on the 5th place says about us one or both of the next two things: * We are out of reality. * We are

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-09 Thread Svip
On 9 April 2011 10:14, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied between 6th and 8th place [1]. Repeating that it's on the 5th place says about us one

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-09 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/09/2011 10:18 AM, Svip wrote: On 9 April 2011 10:14, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: May someone update manual in which it is written that Wikipedia is the fifth site by traffic? For the most of 2010 and whole 2011 it has varied between 6th and 8th place [1]. Repeating that

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 04/09/11 1:54 AM, Svip wrote: On 9 April 2011 10:45, Federico Leva (Nemo)nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Milos Rancic, 09/04/2011 10:14 [1] http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wikipedia.org We've been using comScore data for years, now:

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-09 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/09/2011 11:37 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: On 04/09/11 1:54 AM, Svip wrote: On 9 April 2011 10:45, Federico Leva (Nemo)nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Milos Rancic, 09/04/2011 10:14 [1] http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wikipedia.org We've been using comScore data for years, now: