[Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-19 Thread Erik Zachte
Jon, after rereading my post, I apologize for the snappy tone. I don't think you deliberately tried to bend the facts, probably were just a bit loosely phrasing your argument. Erik Zachte ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikime

[Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-19 Thread Erik Zachte
Jon Davis: > Meta already has a propsosal for a "Wikitainment" > ( http://wmf4.me/EFf2D ) which goes to show that the WMF > community wants something like this. 11 people signed the proposal out of roughly 1 million who contributed to the projects over the years, or ou

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-19 Thread John Vandenberg
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:15 AM, David Goodman wrote: > Even if the license change applied only to material started after the > present, it would make future collaboration possible Based on what I have seen, the majority of the pages have been only edited by a few people who could agree to relice

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-19 Thread David Goodman
Even if the license change applied only to material started after the present, it would make future collaboration possible David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Laura, > > Thanks for your work on the propo

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Samuel Klein
Laura, Thanks for your work on the proposal. I hadn't looked at fanhistory in any detail before, and enjoyed discovering it's lifecycle through your blog. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:51 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > > I may not have time to respond to your comments in detail, but I think > it is

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Laura Hale wrote: > John Vandenberg wrote: >>Users don't always appreciate being documented on another website, >>because it takes control away from them and the site with which [they] >>have participated: > > We looked around for ways to increase our visibility in

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Laura Hale
Rather than reply to multiple posts, I'm just going to reply to several all at once. As a cavaet, when I say our in the context of Fan History, I am primarily talking from the perspective of our admin team. We have probably five really regular contributors and about 10 people who drop in once

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Jon Davis wrote: > I don't think that the WMF "acquiring" FanHistory would make them a > competitor with Wikia, after all, Meta already has a propsosal for a > "Wikitainment" ( http://wmf4.me/EFf2D ) which goes to show that the WMF > community wants something like

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread geni
I apologise for top posting but I wish to respond to your post in full while making the absolute show stopper clear. You wiki is not under a free license nor can it's content be released under a free license without an impractical degree of effort The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empo

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Sage Ross wrote: > So the question is, what difference does it make for a wiki and its > community to be part of a non-profit set of projects versus an > ad-supported for-profit one?  Quite a bit, I would say, in the > long-term strategic sense of spreading a free

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
, November 18, 2009 11:58:24 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family While Laura kinda forgot it, for those that don't feel like scrolling and cant operate google.  FanHistory can be found at http://www.fanhistory.com/ As for my brief view of this, I think it is an

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Sage Ross
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Jon Davis wrote: > I don't think that the WMF "acquiring" FanHistory would make them a > competitor with Wikia, after all, Meta already has a propsosal for a > "Wikitainment" ( http://wmf4.me/EFf2D ) which goes to show that the WMF > community wants something like

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Jon Davis
I don't think that the WMF "acquiring" FanHistory would make them a competitor with Wikia, after all, Meta already has a propsosal for a "Wikitainment" ( http://wmf4.me/EFf2D ) which goes to show that the WMF community wants something like this. Why not merge that proposal and FH into one. It wou

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Sage Ross
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Laura Hale wrote: > Fan History would be a good fit for helping the Wikimedia Foundation in > terms of helping the Foundation meet some of its goals towards providing > information, helping establish credibility and gaining a more female > contributor base. I for

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Jon Davis
While Laura kinda forgot it, for those that don't feel like scrolling and cant operate google. FanHistory can be found at http://www.fanhistory.com/ As for my brief view of this, I think it is an idea that definitely has merit. The biggest concern I would have voiced was NPOV and while FH wasn't

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Pharos
Why the heck not? My only concern would be that the topic of fan history might be a bit specialized by itself. Why not call it "Wikitribes" and extend the concept to other subcultures and microhistories of small communities? I know of someone working with the oral history of Philadelphia jazz mu

[Foundation-l] Proposal: Fan History joining the WMF family

2009-11-18 Thread Laura Hale
Erik suggested I post this to the list for further discussion. Sincerely, Laura Hale *Introduction* Fan History Wiki is a project dedicated to documenting the history of fan communities, and to a lesser extent, documenting the history of online communities, popular culture and the tools that